Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaffaria

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. --Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 07:33, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kaffaria

From WP:PNT. Only been there a few hours, but consensus there is to delete as a hoax. Here's the discussion from WP:PNT... Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 01:52, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

German. "Kaffaria is a modification of the write art of the Kaffkas. In this kind of the letter one needs four pins, between each finger one. Then one must learn with each pin another letter to write, if one created that can one whole stories much shorter time write. Already Homerie Hugold(1312 1363) had at that time a similar schreibart, but only with three pins. The Kaffaria completed the write art then." (Babel Fish Translation) I can't make much of this other than it does not appear to be nonsense, vanity, nor an advertisement. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

• Strange... no relevant Google hits for "Kaffaria" nor "Kaffar", nor "Hugolt". Doubtfully, but could it refer to something really rare but still valid, in the history? - Introvert ^talk 00:21, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Here's a more exact translation: Kaffaria is a modification of Kaffka's [sic] art in writing. In this kind of writing, four pens are needed, one between each finger [sic]. Then one must learn to write another letter with each pen. When one has done this, one is able to write entire stories in much shorter [less] time. Even Homerie Hugold(1312-1363) already used to have such a way of writing, though only with three pens. [The] Kaffaria subsequently perfected the writing art.

Surely this is a spoof? Kaffaria is a geographical designation in South-Africa, but there is no connexion with the author Kafka (single f). Homerie, as far as I am aware, does not occur, but has overtones of Homer. Writing with a number of pens at the same time, surely, is a game only practised by children? The associations with Kafka and Homer must be relegated to the field of creative nonsense, as must the entire entry. Bessel Dekker 00:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

It surely does look like someone's gotten into merry spirits already, so I was just being one step extra careful :) - Introvert ^talk 01:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Quite right, too. Well, they've had their fun, which is a nice thought for the season :-) Bessel Dekker 01:13, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

• So AfD as hoax? Or shall we let it sit here for two weeks first, just in case? Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 01:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
  • If this is the best the author can do, it must be a hoax. Letting it sit might be an option, but only because this is the merry (and merciful) season. Should you wish to give the author a chance, by all means. But to be honest, I can see no merit in this article. Just re-read my translation above (if you can bring yourself to do it), and try to picture what it purports to describe. Bessel Dekker 01:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I say speedy as {{nonsense}}. Come on, writing with four pens in one hand as a way to write stories faster? Kusma (討論) 01:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
      • We go over this on WP:AFD all the time. If it is parseable English (or in this case, parseable German), it's not {{nonsense}}. If you can understand it, but yet it is complete bollocks, then it is definitely deletable, but requires debate on AfD. If fact, I think I'll AfD this article right away, since there seems to be consenus here on WP:PNT that it is worthless. Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 01:49, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

• (I'm the nominator) - delete per WP:PNT discussion. Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 01:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I suspect it may have been inspired by Thea Alba, a German music hall performer billed as "The Woman with Ten Brains"; her act was to write on a blackboard simultaneously using ten pieces of chalk taped to her fingers. She's mentioned in Ricky Jay's Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women. Tearlach 02:35, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Translated it - I see someone's already done it above but I was bored. Very silly. --Last Malthusian 09:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.