Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Waring

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The numbers are split, but this isn't a vote and I'm inclined to give Mangojuice's argument more weight; as he says, numerous references from reliable sources were added since the nomination and he's the only one in this AfD to have commented on that. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 01:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jordan Waring

This is a vanity article on a non-notable composer. All of the substantive contributions have come from the subject himself. After others started trying to edit out the blatant POV, the subject repeatedly blanked the page. The lack of citable reliable verifiable sources speaks for itself. Marc Shepherd 14:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

While I appreciate Marc Shepherd´s comments very much, I must quite respectfully disagree with a few of his assertions. While not as notable as some, I have enjoyed some public success as a recorded composer, and my CD is commercially available. Additionally I have been critically well reviewed by legitimate publications (American Record guide, Tampa Tribune, Allentown Morning Call). Mr. Shepherd´s assertion that the pages were repeatedly BLANKED were simply due to me trying to start over in order to get the article right. I didn´t know this was a violation of policy. Lastly, it is untrue that there are no verifiable sources, as other users were able to create links to outside sources jordanwaring 15:20 7 September 2006

The links to the web sources are to, respectively, Mr. Waring's publisher's site and Amazon.com. Unfortunately, there are no links to the reviews that Mr. Waring mentions above. I am not voting on this AfD yet, in the hopes that Mr. Waring can come up with some reliable, independent sources. -- Ssilvers 16:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

• A Google News Archive search does show some stories about him organising a concert for Bosnia see [1]. There seems to have been nothing since. Capitalistroadster 03:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately many of the articles about me and about the music are available online in ARCHIVE form only. I have copied the review from the August 8th 1998 edition of the Tampa Tribune. I would also submit that not only should this article not be deleted, but additionally should not be considered autobiographical, since I did not write the majority of the things there, only copied and pasted it into wiki. The fact that I entered it doesn´t necessarily mean it´s autobiographical.

This is from the Tampa Tribune, by Kurt Loft, 8 August 1998

"Here's a look at a handful of other important new recordings, all of which should be available or can be ordered from book and record stores:

Christobal de Morales, "Missa pro Defunctis," Gabrieli Consort directed by Paul McCreesh (Deutsche Grammophon Archive). A 16th century Spanish priest and singer at the Sistine Chapel, Morales made important contributions to the liturgy for the dead and developed a fluid, intoxicating style capable of lulling any listener to a higher plane. His Requiem for Philip II is an hourlong tour de force in 15 sections, and its bold clarity alone influenced other composers well into the high Baroque. Anchoring the disc is Alonso Lobo's short but hauntingly beautiful "Motectum," which disarms criticism.

Jordan Waring, "Tears of Sarajevo," Piano Concerto, "Mountains of Tolima," Moravska Philharmonic under the direction of Nicolas Smith (MMC Recordings). Born in New York in 1964, this young composer-stockbroker shows tremendous promise as a member of the so-called neo-Romantic school of tonality and a solid grasp of large-scale structure. Better yet, here's a composer writing about contemporary issues, in this case, the war in Bosnia. Dedicated to the victims of that country's holocaust, "Tears of Sarajevo" is plaintive, introspective and a candidate for live performance in concert halls.

jordanwaring 07:57, 8 September 2006 {UTC}

• Delete per nom.--Peta 05:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Since the entire article has now been redone with all sources cited, may I ask why you recommend deleting the article? Thanks and kind regards

• Keep after the revisions. Certainly seems notable, and in my opinion, POV has been addressed enough at this point. Mangojuice^talk 19:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.