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The result of the debate was DELETE. — JIP | Talk 08:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jerome Napoleon Charles Bonaparte

Individual seems notable only as a consequence of being distantly related to the more famous Napoleon Bonaparte of France. While I'm certain that the individual in question merits a mention on someone else's page (his father's page, for example, who seems marginally noteworthy in his own right), this entry reads simply like a geneology entry, and provides no reason why Jerome Napoleon Charles Bonaparte is, himself, worthy of a full, seperate Wikipedia entry. Extreme Unction 15:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete. This is a speedy, unless being the son of a notable person is a claim to notability. JPD (talk) 15:47, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete this is the son (1) of the son (2) of the son (3) of the brother (4) of Napoleon Bonaparte. Paolo Liberatore (Talk) 16:32, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete and support speedy if possible. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] :: AfD? 16:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Merge with Bonaparte and redirect. Some folks may be notable only for their name or family connections. Descendents of Napoleon Bonaparte also fall within that category. Smerdis of Tlön 16:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
    • Your argument is flawed. Your chosen example satisfies the WP:BIO criteria on several grounds, including (for starters) being the subject of extensive media coverage and third party biographies. Someone who is only related to notable people indeed does not satisfy the WP:BIO criteria. Wikipedia is not a genealogy database. That's Wikitree's job. Uncle G 19:09, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Is there an article here where the various Bonapartes can be identified (and this merged)? Smerdis of Tlön 19:49, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
      • There is. Merge any data not already there with Bonaparte and redirect. Smerdis of Tlön 15:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. He is the great-great-nephew of Napoleon Bonaparte (if I have my genealogical relationships correct). Doesn’t seem like much of a claim to notability, unless ALL relatives of Napoleon, no matter how distant, are considered notable. If I traced my genealogy back far enough, I could probably find a relationship. ♠DanMS 16:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • merge into a list of descendents of Napoleon or something. Trollderella 17:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. He isn't a descendent of Napolean, he is a decendent of one of Napolean's brothers. Not that I want to see a list of Napolean's descendents, either. - Dalbury (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge. Bush family contains brief coverage of the minor ancestors of the Bushes. Something similar could be done for the minor decendents of Napoleon. - SimonP 20:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Delete, Not notable enough in own right and not a descendant of Napoleon.-Dakota t e 20:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment. Argh! He is already listed in Bonaparte. The only new info in Jerome Napoleon Charles Bonaparte is the ancestry of his wife. Note that there are many more names in Bonaparte that do not yet have their own articles. Just how far will this be taken? - Dalbury (talk) 20:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Only claim to fame is a distant relationship with Napoleon. I'm related to someone famous, but you don't see my article on Wikipedia? Or are all descendants of famous people now inherently notable and automatic speedy keeps? Saberwyn 22:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Napoleon Bonaparte was the founder of a ruling dynasty. Yes, this makes information about his family and descendants somewhat notable, even if they could never make it in on their own merits. The information should be preserved somewhere. Smerdis of Tlön 15:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not notable *drew 01:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge into Bonaparte as per above. Ejrrjs | What? 01:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
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