Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Paes

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, so keep. -Splash^talk 01:07, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jennifer Paes

Delete Non-notable as per [1] PhilipO 17:02, September 7, 2005 (UTC) --PhilipO 19:13, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep—According to the Leander Paes page she was "captain of the Indian team in the 1980 Asian Basketball Championships". I think that makes her at least marginally notable. — RJH 18:00, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• delete void of encyclopedic value. Her "call to fame" is the career of her daugher. Let's not create an article on every family member of any semi-obscure athlete --Mecanismo 18:06, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Mecanismo, Leander is her son, not daughter. Plz see below. User:Nichalp/sg 17:54, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and Cleanup. The information from RJH should be included for a start. Capitalistroadster 18:23, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep basketball player in her own right. Kappa 18:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep if this can be expanded further, otherwise redirect to Leander Paes. Hall Monitor 18:45, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as expanded, Olympic-class athletes are definitely notable. Hall Monitor 19:30, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Mecanismo, at least until someone wants to do some serious work on it. --Fang Aili 19:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete no real assertions of notability in article. From the article: "She was a basketball player in he own right." Professional? Semi-pro? Olympic? Amateur? Hobbyist? Shoots hoops in the driveway? Top scorer on the NBA Jam machine at the laundromat? This article needs context, and without it, is worse than no article at all. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:41, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Either needs proof that she has represented India at basketball (played professionally seems unlikely) or should be deleted. Average Earthman 21:32, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable in and of herself. Will change my vote if references to her own notability can be cited. Fernando Rizo T/C 22:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Fernando Rizo. Nandesuka 04:41, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Reasonably well-known, though almost always attached with the name of Leander Paes. Tintin 11:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep — very notable. I also believe she was in the Indian national team. Heard a lot about her. Take it from me. User:Nichalp/sg 13:24, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
  • Philip: Google rankings are not the sole criteria for notability. I've rewritten it in stub form. Hope the above users can change their vote. User:Nichalp/sg 15:14, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
    • No, but there a pretty good indicator! ;-) However, the links added do seem to provide more evidence of notability. --PhilipO 16:37, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
      • As this article shows, google rankings are a terrible indicator of notability for people in developing countries or who were famous in the past but not now. Kappa 16:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
        • Fair enough - changing my vote to Merge. --PhilipO 19:13, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
      • Philip and the rest of the AFD team: please use this as a guide in the future: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/List control User:Nichalp/sg 17:54, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
• I assume Women's Basketball must have been a demonstration sport in the 1972 Olympic Games, as the first medals awarded in that event were in 1976 (according to the IOC anyway) Average Earthman 22:04, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

• But I just checked David Wallachinsky's massive The Complete Book of Olympics which should have mentioned about 1972 if basketball was a demonstration sport, but it doesn't. This book lists all the teams that took part in Women's basketball between 1976 and 1992 - India isn't in any of them. I was suspecting that she could have taken part in 1980 when the big teams boycotted, that 1972 could be wrong and some copywriter might have taken the 1972 from Vece Paes and attributed it to Jennifer. That doesn't seem to be the case. Tintin 00:14, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

• Merge but agree with Average Earthman that first needs proof that she has represented India at basketball (otherwise should be deleted) Dlyons493 21:22, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

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