Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JT Woodruff

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy delete by User:The Epopt; list at DRV if this is a problem. — Adrian Lamo ·· 09:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JT Woodruff

already speedy deleted twice, extremely short nn-musician-- xaosflux ^Talk/_CVU 03:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. This musician is apparently notable and the speedy deleters seemed to be a little quick on the trigger finger. Please check out Hawthorne Heights and this Google search. In the future, I suggest administrators do a little research when a claim of notability is made in the article, even if it is a stub. JHMM13 (T | C) 03:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete A notable band does not a notable musician make, hence why there's so little to say in this article. For the most part, especially for newer bands, anything that needs to be said about them can be said on their band's page. --InShaneee 03:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: I don't see the logic in this. There are many musicians who are notable simply because they are in a band. In fact, that is one of the best ways to become famous: start a famous band. JHMM13 (T | C) 03:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

  This is very true. However, I don't think this guy is one of those people. I've heard of Guns 'N Roses, and I've heard of Slash and Axel Rose. I've heard of Hawthorne Hights, but I couldn't name a single member, and I think as of now (aside from the band's hardcore following), that's pretty typical (for reasons enunciated by the voter below, most likely). --InShaneee 04:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete not because the musician isn't notable, but becuase he hasn't had a career independent of Hawthorne Heights, and I therefor find it doubtful there's anything to put here that isn't already in that article. --djrobgordon 04:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Hawthorne Heights unless he does something of note outside the band. His credits on Allmusic.com shows that he hasn't done much outside the band [1] and the current article is a substub. However, he is a person who is likely to have people search for information on so we should have him as a redirect. Capitalistroadster 04:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per JHMM13. Subject notable, article needs work. So fix it. Monicasdude 04:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.