Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iturf

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. With the research done after the initial participators, and the discounting of the redlinked user, this is a keep rather than a no consensus. -Splash^talk 23:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Iturf

Article created clearly to advertise the MSN Group and to be honest I don't believe all the history about the web site being changed over to an MSN Group. Not enough effort put into article either, so in my opinion it should be deleted.  Thorpe ^talk 22:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

• Relisted on October 4, no votes other than the nominator. No vote. Ral315 W_S 02:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Is this really notable enough to be listed? If it was a failed company then it obviously was not notable enough in the eyes of the public to remain in business. will381796 03:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Not only is this real - see[1] - but it played an incredibly major role in the creation of SparkNotes - see [2] - one of the most notable internet creations. It in and of itself is also notable due to it's status as a remnant of one of the more notable internet ventures, from which remnants never come - it's alwyas hit or miss. CastAStone 03:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, it failed because not many people used it. Flops typically have to be spectacular and very expensive to be notable, like Battlefield Earth. -- Kjkolb 04:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
  • That's not accurate. It failed because it didn't make it's parent company, dElias clothing, any money. It continued to exist, however, because of its popularity. --] CastAStone17:37, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure that some of the users moving to MSN groups would count as surviving. Anyway, they were only getting 65,000 visitors a month when they were at their original site. What do they get now? Also, how many members do they have? -- Kjkolb 07:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Ad. utcursch | talk 11:35, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, media coverage indicates adequate notability. Kappa 14:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep though I'd like to see the article cleaned up to focus more on it's actual subject instead of the memorial group that followed it. As it is currently it's just as silly as having an article on Jim Morrison with two pages about his tombstone but only a paragraph about his life. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as per Kappa PMLF 20:14, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Kappa and CastAStone, but certainly clean up. --Jacquelyn Marie 15:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.