Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holophonor

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge into List of Futurama gadgets. KrakatoaKatie 04:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holophonor

This article is entirely originial research, which violates Wikipedia's policy. It also is not appropriate for an encyclopedia, failing WP:NOT hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 22:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• delete I suppose if someone created an article about Futurama Devices and merged the articles into that article sans the commentary about the various derivations from other fiction, I could support the articles staying. But short of that, these are original research and not notable in an of themselves. Montco 23:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC) didn't know about List of Futurama_gadgets. Merge. Montco 00:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• keep What is the difference between this article and Springfield (The Simpsons)? And Bender (Futurama)? All are fictional stuff, and sources can be easily taken from the show. I believe the article can be improved. Cheers -- Imoeng 23:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  The difference is that Springfield is the setting for the Simpsons and that Bender is a major character in a television series, both of which are significantly more important than a minor item in a television series. Cheers hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 23:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep A major plot element from a notable television series? How does that not meet the criteria for Wikipedia? And further "as revealed in the DVD commentary of "Parasites Lost" and "Devil's Hands..." is in the article, which indicates that somebody heard someone say it in the DVD commentary. That makes it a source, and as such means that this article is not entirely original research. But just so everybody knows there is List of Futurama_gadgets which this could be merged to easily, if that was desired. Mister.Manticore 23:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  Please don't misrepresent the item's significance. The item is not a major plot element in the series by any stretch of the imagination. It has been prominently featured in a few episodes and has been seen, but not featured, in a few others. In as far as merging, I'd be happy to merge the information to the list of gadgets after the deletion of the article (I can view deleted content). hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 23:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  Comment It's the crux of the final episode of the final series (Fry does a deal with the Robot Devil to be able to play the holophonor, and goes on to stage an operatic performance relying on his playing the holophonor) as well as having been featured in a previous episode. Robovski 00:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

  • It's a major plot element in two episodes, there's no doubt of that. In fact, I'd say it's a very significant element of the second one, as Robovski already said. If it were just one, I'd say merge to that single episode, but given that it is in two, plus some of the comics, it just wouldn't work. But hey, go for the merge to a single article for the series. That'd be fine with me. Mister.Manticore 01:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Either all articles about all fiction that rely only on the fiction itself OR - or none b/c the fiction constitutes a source. This is classic WP:CRUFT - but not necessarily OR. Delete. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Merge all this Futurama fancruft into a single article ("List of devices in Futurama" or similar). Opabinia regalis 00:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Mister.Manticore DrWho42 00:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Conflicted. Perhaps I should go with keep or merge. But either way, the info shouldn't be deleted by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know if the item is notable enough for its own article, but my utter, unwavering love of Futurama (with the exception of "That's Lobstertainment!", which even the show's creators admit is the worst episode) keeps me from !voting for a merge. Also, the fact that the (current) final episode of the series reolves around the holophonor is an interesting point (for the record, "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" is one of my favorite episodes). But... eh, I don't know. Just don't delete the article outright. -- Kicking222 02:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into List of Futurama gadgets. I mean, really. ~ trialsanderrors 02:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per trialsanderrors M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 03:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: The Holophonor was central in two episodes (including the Series Finale), and I think it's important enough to keep. And, it's not original research if it's from a DVD Commentary. -- Scorpion0422 06:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

  Erm, no it's definitely original research as it stands now. If you have a valid source, please cite the article appropriately. hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 06:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• The holophonor was also quite important in the plot of Crossover I Go Futurama! Sp3000 06:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per Mister.Manticore. Though the article may need clean-up/improvement. Nic tan33 06:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into List of Futurama Gadgets. --AAA! ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge. Being a prominent element in the final episode does not make it major. It's an object that has little impact on the show other than two episodes (and the first episode was about worms that allowed him to play it, not the Holophonor itself). - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into List of Futurama Gadgets. Bhumiya (said/done) 10:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per the greater concensus. Daniel.Bryant 10:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge There is already too much fanboy cruft in the encyclopedia L0b0t 12:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per previous comments. —Malber (talk · contribs) 14:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge easily. Sir Crazyswordsman 15:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Danny Lilithborne 21:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge and redirect Certainly should not be deleted as it is an important aspect of several Futurama episodes. - Mike | Trick or Treat 22:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. I'm a huge fan of Futurama too, but I have trouble justifying this as a seperate article. Unlike Planet Express Ship, which was featured in pretty much every episode, this was only seen a few times. The best place for it is List of Futurama gadgets. - Lex 07:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to List of Futurama Gadgets. I'm a futurama fan, but even I don't think this needs its own article. --WillMak050389 22:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect into List of Futurama Gadgets. -- Zanimum 20:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect. If it wasn't for my RfA, this article wouldn't have been brought to an AfD (at least for the time being), and while I'm quite a Futurama fan, and would like the article to stay for that reason, I have to agree that it's not notable enough for an article. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 21:10, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect as per already discussed.--Stuart D. 08:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. No comment. Lemonsawdust 01:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

You probably should comment as this is not a vote but rather a discussion. L0b0t 01:40, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.