Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herrut

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. howcheng {chat} 18:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Herrut

Patent Nonsense / Hoax? I found this page from a request to create an article for Meh (goddess). Neither Meh nor Herrut appear anywhere in my extensive library on ancient Egypt, most notably in [1]. Google search brings up a few Christinanity-related pages, all listing "Herrut" as the basis for claiming Jesus was based on Osiris, and Herrut being the biblycal Herod. In conjunction with obsolete and incorrect names of Egyptian deities linked to it, this leads me to believe that Herrut is part of some hoax from the 70s or before. Flyboy Will 08:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment Just to add, those Herrut-Herod web sources claim Herrut is derived from "heru" which is supposedly egyptian for "to terrify". That is complete nonsense - "heru" is either the God Horus, or kheru which is 'voice', or possibly heroo which is 'day'. 'To terrify' would be something like "sebeha". I.e. more proof the entire thing is based on some nonsence. Flyboy Will 08:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Interesting link here in line with Flyboy Will's comment. The "patent nonsense" argument sounds plausible to me, but I don't know enough to make an informed decision. Billbrock 10:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
• The references to Herrut seem to derive from The Historical Jesus and Mythical Christ by Gerald Massey, originally published c. 1900. Considering that the Christian references to Herrut seem widespread (though there is no evidence that Herrut was an Egyptian god), I vote to keep the article, on the condition that it be rewritten and recategorized to discuss the contemporary Herod-Herrut connection rather than claiming Herrut was an Egyptian god. Adunar 05:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. That essay by Massey is described by himself as original research. If it hasn't gained academic acceptance by now, we can hardly use it to support the article, or any other works that reference it. If the article is kept, perhaps it should document the "Herrut Hoax" d how it has been used. Wesley 23:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

• Good point. I haven't found references to Herrut by a reputable third party publisher, so it would be hard to support an article on the Herrut-Herod connection. I'll change my vote to delete. Adunar 10:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.