Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harold Littledale Power

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Add some of this content to Tyrone Power, Sr. and create a redirect there. Rx StrangeLove 18:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Harold Littledale Power

I created the page. He was the father of Tyrone Power, Sr. and grandfather of Hollywood star Tyrone Power but I have only found two plays/performances that he appeared in the London Times which weren't really that significant. Guidance needed on whether it should be kept. Thanks Arniep 22:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Concert pianist, father and grandfather respectively of the two Tyrone Powers - I'd say that's probably good enough. Better than some nonentity porn star, anyway. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] :: AfD? 23:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

comment I think the concert pianist was not him but another H Power possibly Henry, I haven't found any evidence this Harold Power was a pianist, there is nothing in the London Times about him being a pianist which you would expect if he was notable. Arniep 23:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Googling has Tyrone power as the son of "consert pianist Harold Power" on several sites. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 12:49, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

• The ODNB writes about Harold and his wife (in the article on the son - there is no article on Harold himself) that they were "mildly successful entertainers, who in 1877 crossed the Atlantic to seek their fortune with American audiences." I'd say the family as a whole is interesting enough to make this worthy of keeping in some form, but possibly merged with either father or son, or into an article called Power (family) or something like that. Tupsharru 07:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I think the truth is people don't really no much about his father. They did travel to the U.S. in 1877 but by 1881 they were back in London. I don't have any evidence that Harold Power really performed in anything significant after his marriage, in the 1871 British census he was a Wine Merchant, in 1881 a Mine Agent, and in 1891 a Mining Engineer all three times in London and he died in London in 1901. He may have played the piano but maybe its significance was exaggerated to make him seem more interesting for bios of his grandson Tyrone Power. Arniep 11:08, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

• I'd support a merge along those lines, althoguh Tyrone Jr. is probably going to merit an article of his own. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 12:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

• Harold should probably be merged with Tyrone Power (1795-1841) to begin with. If that gets overloaded with genealogy, a separate article on the family could be created too make navigation easier. Tupsharru 13:04, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Will you WP:Be bold or shall I? ;-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 13:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

We might as well let the article have its five days on AFD before doing anything. Tupsharru 16:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I would definitely like to keep separate pages for all the Tyrone Powers as they were all famous in their own right. I would personally be in favour of deleting the Harold page. I would mention a bit about Harold's career on his son Tyrone Power, Sr.'s page and create a clearer family tree outline on Tyrone Power (1795-1841) which would give Harold's date of birth and death. Arniep 18:21, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

That sounds uncontroversial to me. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 20:44, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I forgot to vote, please delete with reference to my above proposal. Thanks Arniep 13:54, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

For the avoidance of doubt, I support the above (i.e.merging without loss of encyclopaedic content), including a delete if necessary, although as far as I can see leaving a redirect behind would not hurt. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 17:09, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.