Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halo with sprinkles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Leaving aside the self-promotion angle, the site is still clearly non-notable and fails WP:WEB. A local college award and a local newspaper writeup are just not enough to redeem what is ultimately a very small forum. Turnstep 15:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Halo with sprinkles

WP:WEB Non-notable web site, as article admits. John Nagle 17:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per above. The article even says The site is operated on a very local level, with almost all of its members and visitors living in or near north Iowa, most of whom are friends of either Norris or Brunsvold. But a "prod" tag has been deleted twice, without any other changes to the article, so we have to do this the hard way. --John Nagle 17:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment For future reference, {{prod}} should not be replaced on an article once anyone removes it, per WP:PROD. Vslashg (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete 103 users on the forums; not notable enough Where ^(talk) 17:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Nagle's comments above. --Elkman - ^(talk) 17:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. --BillC 21:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and John Nagel. --Lockley 21:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above, and no Alexa rank. Vslashg (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Newton465's comments on the discussion page: HWS has won awards. It is notable. I am waiting on HoodedGnome to add to the artical about the awards we have won because I don't want to incorrectly state them. - Newton465--TwoThumbsDown 16:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment All contributions of TwoThumbsDown (talk • contribs) relate to this deletion. May be sockpuppet. --John Nagle 17:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above comment: HWS is a great friendly place to post about anything. It has been gaining in popularity all over, not just in Iowa as article "suggested." Kolten27 17:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• I'm pretty sure that I'm no sockpuppet, John. I am the same "TwoThumbsDown" mentioned in the article. While it is true I created this account to defend this article, I have contributed to Wikipedia anonymously before. I ask that any deliberations concerning the deletion wait until proof of notability comes in, as indicated by Newton465 above.--TwoThumbsDown 22:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• I don't understand what the big deal is about deleting it. We are trying to grow out and become more known and grow in the Halo community. We are starting to get a good idea of where we are headed, manly in the creation of our own Machinima movies, but not limited to that. Right now our forum members don't understand what the big deal is about deleting the artical. This would only help our growth. And thats what we are striving to do. Grow. And to be clear, TwoThumbsDown is no sockpuppet, and neither is Kolten27. They maybe the trouble makers of the HWS Forums, but us three are the most technology minded in general and knolegable about Wikipedia. They would never do anything distructive or without having a good reason to on this site. =Newton465 02:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that you want to use Wikipedia for self-promotion, and that's strongly discouraged. Web sites only get into Wikipedia after they become notable. Otherwise, every website on the web would have an article. Also, writing an article about yourself or your own stuff is generally discouraged. Have you read WP:WEB and WP:VAIN? Those will make things clearer. It's not just you; about a thousand articles a day are thrown out of Wikipedia. --John Nagle 02:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

• So becuase we are memebers of the forums, it means that we are making the article about ourselves? Let me remind you that TwoThumbsDown and I are NOT moderators of the forums (refer to article which is in question) and that the both of us have done most, if not all, the editing to this article. Therefore, we did not make it about ourselves. This article is also NOT an advertisment for the forums. All information included is imformational and nothing is said about why, how even how to join. Kolten27 03:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• I understand your concerns about the advertising, John. A sticky situation indeed. I've read WP:WEB, and I would like to note that Brunsvold (referred to as "HoodedGnome" above), the one responsible for the creation of the website in question has indeed won an award (in his case, from a local college) and recieved recognition from a local newspaper as a result. Once again, I request some patience from all of us so that Brunsvold can sort this out. Thanks for being this patient with us for this long, anyway. It is our fault for not noticing this criteria before. If we are unable to provide proof of notability soon then the proposal for deletion is justified, in my view at least. I am also curious as to what we can do to clean up this article in the meantime to remove any self-promotion that you may notice.--TwoThumbsDown 03:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.