Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Habbox

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete for copyvio; redirect to Habbo Hotel. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-11-27 07:28Z

[edit] Habbox

Habbox (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Page about a non-notable website that reads like an advert for the site J2thawiki 11:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It is not an advert for the site, it is a history of the most popular website based on Habbo Hotel. Mastablastauk 11:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC) — Mastablastauk (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Wikipedia has the follow as regards notability for websites (from Wikipedia:Notability (web):

Web-specific content^[1] is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

1. The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself.
   • This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper and magazine articles, books, television documentaries, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations.^[2] except for the following:
     • Media re-prints of press releases and advertising for the content or site.^[3]
     • Trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report the internet address, the times at which such content is updated or made available, a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of internet addresses and site or content descriptions in internet directories or online stores.
2. The website or content has won a well known and independent award, either from a publication or organisation.^[4]
3. The content is distributed via a site which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster.^[5]

The article itself must provide proof that its subject meets one of these criteria via inlined links or a "Reference" or "External link" section. Even if an entire website meets the notability criteria, its components (forums, articles, sections) are not necessarily notable and deserving of their own separate article.

Which of the above criteria applies to the Habbox site? --J2thawiki 11:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• The article is a problem as well - it's a copyvio of Habbox.com article. Delete B.Wind 11:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report the internet address, the times at which such content is updated or made available, a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of internet addresses and site or content descriptions in internet directories or online stores.

An article about this has been added to the page.

--Mastablastauk 11:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete due to copyright concerns and non-notability. As for the keep !vote which cited WP:WEB above, this fails point 1 because the mention, as opposed to the required mentions, is trivial and no evidence is asserted to meet points 2 and 3. MER-C 12:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as it fails WP:WEB and WP:V. Jayden54 14:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Habbo Hotel and merge. Habbox is too small a subset of the whole Habbo Hotel community to warrent a whole artice. meshach 18:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

--LewstherinII wrote:

"I feel this should be deleted. The article mainly advertises the site itself, it is not in any way very historical and is simply a fansite for a business owned by Sulake.

I would like to point out this: Habbox is not even recognised by Sulake as an Official Website. That is, the site it is a fansite of, Habbo Hotel, has not included Habbox on it's Habbo Hotel Official Fansite list. As the images of Habbo Furni on Habbox belong to Sulake, which hasn't recognised it as an official fansite, putting this on Wikipedia is bad idea.

I may be new to the Wiki community but I will say this. This article is an advertisement for a fansite that was not accepted by Sulake Ltd as a proper fansite, it is an unimportant and trivial topic ('Habbox') with trivial media references, and using this article may cause copyright concerns.

This has no real relevance, scientific or otherwise, as an informative article nor do people need to be informed of what is, in essence, a fansite for something else. That site that it is a fansite for (Habbo Hotel) has an Official List of fansites, with information about every fansite. And if Habbox doesn't feature there, than it is not recognised by the company and therefore was chosen not to be advertised by the company!

Habbo Hotel Official Fansite list, is found here - http://www.habbo.co.uk/community/fansites/fansitesgeneral.html Note, Habbox is not amoung them.

In summary, this article has no real relevance and unfortunately no real right to be here, it's just an advertisement really and not informative for a relevant topic. Should be deleted." - LewstherinII 4:45PM AEST

• Speedy delete and so tagged. This is spam of the very worst sort, with most of the text C&P directly from the Habbox website. It also attempts to circumvent deletion debate by tagging on claims of notability (press reviews), which unfortunately for the author do not protect from speedy deletion. In fact, it is only one press review, the principal subject of which is Habbo, and we have to look very carefully indeed to find the mention of Habbox. Ohconfucius 06:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.