Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Newton

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep Eluchil404 05:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greg Newton

not notable; one of the least notable Duke basketball players in recent memory —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bluedog423 (talk • contribs).

• Keep. A team captain of a division one basketball team is notable. --Danielrocks123 04:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep - unless there is some reason to delete other than a comment that seems to be sarcastic BigDT 05:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Captain of a notable team and I note he was later subjected to disciplinary action. Capitalistroadster 07:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. --Coredesat 07:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep would seem to pass WP:BIO Kevin 09:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, he didn't make it to the NBA and I don't think even NBA players should be automatically kept. The cheating incident was not a big enough scandal to make him notable, either. -- Kjkolb 10:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Per WP:BIO, which is an official WP guideline (as opposed to a proposed guideline, an essay, etc.): "The following types of people may merit their own Wikipedia articles... Sportspeople/athletes who have played in a fully professional league... or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports, including college sports in the United States." That's pretty cut-and-dry, especially for a former captain of perhaps (with the possible exception of UCLA) the most well-known college basketball program in America. -- Kicking222 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: from WP:BIO, "Failure to meet these criteria does not mean that a subject must not be included, meeting one or more does not mean that a subject must be included. Many Wikipedians oppose the use of this guideline." :-) -- Kjkolb 21:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
      • But as has been shown often before and is being shown here again, very few support the deletion of articles about sportspeople at this level, so attempts to get one deleted are a waste of everyone's time. CalJW 05:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep presuming this is not a bad-faith nomination, it just passes WP:BIO guidelines. --Arnzy ^{(whats up?)} 12:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep He absolutely passes WP:BIO. No doubt about it. -- Kicking222 14:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep regardless of the nominator's actual intent. Silensor 16:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Anyone who's played substantial minutes for Duke during the Mike Krzyzewski era is probably notable, given the amount of media attention that basketball program has received. Zagalejo 19:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, obviously notable, but this is NOT a speedy candidate. --badlydrawnjeff talk 22:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep Meet the requirements. CalJW 05:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. There's some decent coverage of his senior season in A March to Madness, if anyone feels like expanding the article. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 15:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per Kicking222, notable athlete who played at the highest level for a prestigious university, thus meeting our WP:BIO guidelines. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Those guidelines are ambiguously worded - is the college sports bit part of the amateur sports bit, or separate. If it is part of the amateur sports bit, then the existence of the NBA means that this doesn't meet WP:BIO on that basis. If it is separate, then the person meets WP:BIO on that basis. I can't tell which, so I comment instead of reaching a conclusion. GRBerry 20:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Even so, Newton has played in fully professional leagues as well as the Olympic Games. Also, though this doesn't speak directly to the standards, players on top ACC teams are much higher profile to American sports fans than bench players on weak NBA teams. The Animal 19:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Very notable athlete, meets WP:BIO guidelines, easily verified and has adequate sources. --Auger Martel 10:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.