Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gothic music

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was redirect to gothic rock. --Celestianpower ^háblame 15:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gothic music

Request by User:Adrift* Sceptre ^(Talk) 18:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Delete - Article does not meet the 3 core policies of Wikipedia. The current article contains zero verifiability, is solely based on original research, and is largely based on the POV of an editor who has debated the same POV in the Gothic Metal article. The article was originally intended to be a redirect for Goth Rock.--Adrift* 18:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• Redirect to Gothic rock. -- Krash (Talk) 18:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: the article up for deletion had two editors in an edit war over whether it should be redirected or not. I however, abstain from both voting and closing this discussion Sceptre ^(Talk) 19:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Gothic rock - I agree that this article does not meet the 3 core policies of Wikipedia. The article should be replaced with a redirect to Gothic rock. FilmGal 19:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Gothic rock per nom --Ruby 19:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Gothic rock - First, this article does not meet the 3 core policies of Wikipedia. Also, it does not seem to be able to enlighten the readers any more than the Gothic rock article would; this article is redundant.CatZilla 18:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The article is about music popular in the Goth scene, which is more than just Gothic rock. However, that informaiton is already covered adequately in the main Goth article. It does not need its own article, and this one is very poor. Additionally, a redirect wouldn't be sufficient since the term "goth" is associated with many genres than just gothic rock, so a redirect wouldn't adequately solve disambiguation problems. It's best just to get rid of it. WesleyDodds 04:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Gothic rock - Deathrocker 05:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
• Clean up and Merge with List of non-goth bands popular with Goths or whatever that article is called. The information contained within is not soley represntive of all gothic music, and the term Gothic Music applys to many forms that have no association with modern day Goth subculture. An article should be made to reflect this. Ley Shade 15:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unverifiable original research, then replace with redirect to Gothic rock. --keepsleeping slack off! 00:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete for the reasons stated by Adrift. It's entirely original research and it's based on the POV of one or possibly a few editors. Then, replace with a redirect to gothic rock. --Jakob Huneycutt 15:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

comment. I have sources for every claim in the article if people want them. Also, can someone please explain to me what makes Gothic Metal and other froms of Gothic Music devoid of being noted as Gothic Music, when they are also Gothic Themed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leyasu (talk • contribs).

comment: In response to the above comment-- if there are verifiable sources, then they should have been in the article. Gothic "themed", by the way, is different from actually being a certain genre of music...Gothic themes can be found in a very wide range of music, but having a particular "theme" does not mean that it belongs in a particular genre; or even a particular group of genres. If we are simply talking about having an article for music with a certain theme, then in my opinion, it would be as pointless as having articles devoted to the explanation of "Happy-themed" music, or "Agrarian-themed" music. It makes much more sense to have an article devoted to a particle genre or group of genres and styles, and the gothic rock article serves this purpose. Essentially, though, this article is up for deletion simply because it does not follow the three core policies of wikipedia. If you do feel that this article does meet the policies, then go ahead and vote against deletion. CatZilla 20:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.