Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George H. Moody Middle School
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Mailer Diablo 19:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] George H. Moody Middle School
Non Notable School Newspaper98 19:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral (lean to weak keep). Barely midrange on WP:BEEFSTEW, and we're talking about a middle school; however, given the sharp divide on whether or not school articles are inherently encyclopedic and by what standards we determine whether a school article is encyclopedic, I expect to see a much more substantive reason for the nomination of a school than simply "non notable". That might be fine for less controversial topics, but not for schools. I see this user is new (so we ought to be careful not to bite), and we're all bound by WP:Assume good faith; however, all these nominations without a substantive explanation of why they are being nominated verges on violating WP:POINT. This editor is helping no one by the large number of nominations (s)/he has posted for AfDs on schools. Agent 86 20:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:DP and IB school, which means
locallyregionally significant. --Usgnus 20:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC) - Delete There can be an argument that high schools are inherently notable and worth keeping on Wikipedia (i personally disagree), however, middle schools are most definitely insignificant. It is an IB middle year program, which does not make it locally significant. Only IB diploma schools are significant and that is designated to high schools. Unless more information can be provided to prove the academic excellence of this particular middle school, im going to keep opinion as delete--Shrek05 21:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and allow for organic growth, the school is significantly notable. Bahn Mi 21:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per well established precedent. --Rob 23:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, locally significant. Kappa 23:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. I live one exit from this school and couldn't have told you its name. The local significance claim seems wrong to me. I am as stringent a high school notability supporter as there is, but I cannot extend that rationale to middle schools. Erechtheus 23:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per Shrek05. I don't see how this "all schools are notable" religion has formed at Wikipedia. It's just a building with kids in it. Where's the notability? Seriously, someone spell it out for me because I'm not getting it. Crabapplecove 01:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, non-notable middle school. WP:SCHOOLS failed, and precedents are not binding. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 01:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Mass-nominations of this sort do not stike me as good faith acitivity. In fact, they are downright disruptive, nothing is helped by mass-nominating schools for deletion.--Nicodemus75 02:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Mass-noms, huh. This user tagged for prod a dozen or so articles, most of which had no more content than "Foo Elementary School is a school in Foo, Bar.{{navbox}}" The user's only mistake was not tagging them for speedy deletion, as CSD A1. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Frankly, I don't consider mass-deletions of stubs to be a good faith acitivity either.--Nicodemus75 00:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Stubs have more than a restatement of the title. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Frankly, I don't consider mass-deletions of stubs to be a good faith acitivity either.--Nicodemus75 00:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Mass-noms, huh. This user tagged for prod a dozen or so articles, most of which had no more content than "Foo Elementary School is a school in Foo, Bar.{{navbox}}" The user's only mistake was not tagging them for speedy deletion, as CSD A1. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete since wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and not a directory of schools. Moreover, since every school got its own nomination this can't be considered a bad faith mass nomination. -- Koffieyahoo 07:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. I think that we can all agree that a new account nominating 23 articles for either AfD or WP:PROD all on the same day is not in any way helpful or done in a spirit of trying to build consensus. The fact is, that 23 school articles on the same day by the same editor is by definition a "mass nomination". The fact that each got it's own nomination, just makes it worse because they are all nominated on the same basis. There is a clearly stated mechanism and procedure for nominations of this sort. I do not think that it unreasonable in a case like this to suggest that this was an intentional act which violates WP:POINT--Nicodemus75 08:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment most of these prods and easily removed, so by definition only marginally disruptive. -- Koffieyahoo 09:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. I think that we can all agree that a new account nominating 23 articles for either AfD or WP:PROD all on the same day is not in any way helpful or done in a spirit of trying to build consensus. The fact is, that 23 school articles on the same day by the same editor is by definition a "mass nomination". The fact that each got it's own nomination, just makes it worse because they are all nominated on the same basis. There is a clearly stated mechanism and procedure for nominations of this sort. I do not think that it unreasonable in a case like this to suggest that this was an intentional act which violates WP:POINT--Nicodemus75 08:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Cedars 16:28, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per longstanding arguments for the notability of schools. Christopher Parham (talk) 07:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. As above. --TheM62Manchester 07:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Henrico County Public Schools. — RJH (talk) 16:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Good start to the article. Needs time to grow. --JJay 20:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep this article on a worthy topic. Piccadilly 13:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - per Christopher Parham above. Precedent has long been set. Orangehead 15:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - worthy article for worthy school. Alansohn 00:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-notable school. Even the local doesn't think it should have an article. And claims about precedent are ridiculous- there is no clear precedent, merely a long history of vote stacking and no consensus votes. And even if there were a real precedent this would be a good case to alter the current precedent. JoshuaZ 03:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep- i'll admit needs some improvement this school is highly remarkable, second in county in SOL scores, made up 1% of the winners of the scolastic writing awards hosted at carnegie hall in NYC. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.120.52 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Usgnus and Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep, this is a notable school which offers the International Baccalaureate program. Silensor 17:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per the outcome of the school wars. Gazpacho 19:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- keep please this baccalaureate school is important and verifiable Yuckfoo 23:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.