Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genesis (MMORPG)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete both. People and things must be notable before they get an article, and notable according to people other than the creator and/or fans. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 20:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genesis (MMORPG) and Gavan Woolery

NN project per WP:WEB, difficult to get a google hit (^{[Check Google hits]}) perspective because it shares terms with Sega Genesis and MMORPG, but a quick glance doesn't show promise. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

• Also consider Gavan Woolery, creator of the project. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

In fact, the first google result using the above search terms is an article from Kotaku about the game. I fail to see how that was "difficult". As for showing promise, the purpose of Wikipedia is not to opine about the quality of independant games. The author, Gavan Woolery, has been working on the project for approximately two years, longer than many Linux distros which also have established Wikipedia pages. -Dorin

I suggest, as an alternative to total deletion, renaming it to "Genesis (Online World)" as that does lead to the main site.--n00b 21:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, —Xyrael / 09:03, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Gavan Woolery but not sure what to do with the first — FireFox ^(talk) _{11:32, 03 September 2006}
• Weak Delete Unpublished underground game, WP:NOTABILITY User:Yy-bo 15:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• Definitely Delete Gavan Woolery, and probably best to delete this as well, unless anyone can prove evidence of its notability. Simply having taken a long time in production doesn't make it notable. Terraxos 17:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Daveydweeb (^chat/_patch) 10:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I would give this project some time before claiming that it "doesnt show promise". As soon as its homepage becomes a 404, then you can feel free to take down the wiki. As for it being noteable, how about this for starters: The engine is produced entirely by one person (unheard of for a MMORPG of this quality) The game is the first MMORPG to stray far from the norm, with dynamic content and story building The game is the first MMORPG to eliminate opponent AI...every person is player controlled The game is the first MMORPG to allow permanent death and reproduction The game is the first MMORPG to feature an open-content system with community contributions And much more...

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