Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felix Eldridge

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 00:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Felix Eldridge

This was speedily deleted by User:Zoe as nn, undone by User:Rebecca, and redeleted by Zoe. I have started this AfD to see what everybody thinks of the article. The subject is a former National Union of Students head, and this qualifies for a non-trivial assertion of notability at the least, and although there is widespread speedy deletion of biographies with bogus/unfeasible assertions of notability, this assertion here is real and not without a claim to a debate. Abstain.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blnguyen (talk • contribs) 3 August 2006.

Nothing in this article alleges notability. Being the head of the National Union of Students fails notability. Speedy delete. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Comment - failing notability is not a grounds for speedy deletion. Blnguyen | rant-line 03:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Unremarkable people or groups/vanity pages. And this is, by the way, a vanity page/autobiography. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Question for our Australian friends: In the US, a national student political party organization head is absolutely nobody. He'd get to go to the convention and shake a few hands, but that's it. Is it different there? Fan-1967 03:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Until July 1 this year, Student Unionism was compulsory and students were forced to pay roughly 250-450 USD per annum to these guys depending on the university that they went to. This guy did get a few 10s stints on radio and television complaining about John Howard at student rallies and stuff, the prime minister wrecking universities and stuff like that, although he was probably also likely upset that the students wouldn't have to give him money any more.....Blnguyen | rant-line 03:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment. He was president of the National Union of Students, not a student political party organisation. JPD (talk) 10:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Anon IP contributed only to create the article...ooh...could this be WP:VAIN? TrackerTV 03:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment possible campaign by his organistation, yes. Blnguyen | rant-line 03:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy d as db-repost. SynergeticMaggot 03:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • 'Comment - it's not a repost. I restored it for a proper debate.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - from what I understand from my much-more-switched-on-to-Aussie-student-politics friends, some of this bloke's achievements (the factional merge much more so than the campaign) were pretty significant in terms of the mechanics of the movement. I can try to get some references if that's what's making life difficult, but the operative word is going to be try for the moment. BigHaz 03:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd also add that the NUS is far from being non-notable as a group where the present Australian government is concerned... BigHaz 03:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. He may be a prat, but he passes my bar for notability. Rebecca 06:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep this appears to be a stubby article about a very effective student politician who operated at national level, which seems to me to clearly meets notability criteria. The meritrs or otherwise of his political position are irrelevant. --BrownHairedGirl 07:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. He was a significant player in the Voluntary Student Unionism legislation debate last year. There are 43 stories listed at an Australian media database where he features. Macquarie.net lists 14 ABC News stories referring to him and 15 Australian Associated Press stories. He is verifiable and notable enough for mine. Capitalistroadster 10:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 10:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Capitalistroadster. JPD (talk) 10:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable. VSU is still being hotly debated here at RMIT. -- Synapse
  • After reading this coming straight after the discussion in the (second!) NUS Office Bearer AfD, I'm forced to conclude Speedy Keep as Bad Faith Nomination. -- Synapse 12:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Please explain why you think this is bad faith. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per Zoe. Being president of an organization isn't notable in itself. The article on the NUS itself doesn't even bother to list current or past officers. Perhaps his name belongs there along with others who have held the post, but there's nothing particularly notable asserted about him individually to justify his own article. -- Slowmover 14:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Changing my vote to keep, after some further thought, per Capitalistroadster. -- Slowmover 15:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy keep per Capitalistroadster. I'd defer to an Australian about the notability of Australian political figures. Smerdis of Tlön 14:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Capitalistroadster did not say speedy keep, because he is not so rude as to assume bad faith. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
    • And I did? No, just noting the emergence of a strong consensus suggesting that early closure might be appropriate. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Over 1000 hits on google [1], and the quality of the hits are high, descriptive on this person and their role, as well as media coverage. Themindset 17:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 10:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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