Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Family tree of Abdullah ibn Abbas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Johnleemk | Talk 14:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Family tree of Abdullah ibn Abbas

• Delete per WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, in particular number 6 on genealogical entries. Jersey Devil 14:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• keep per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Family tree of Uthman ibn Affan and Category:Muslim family trees. --Striver 14:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and merge to Abd-Allah ibn Abbas. Do we really need separate articles on the geneaology of every person in Wikipedia? Joelito 15:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and merge per Joelito Bucketsofg 15:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Unless you want to see Family tree of Michael Robinson on here? This is unencyclopedic, violates WP:NOT. Mike _{(T C)} 16:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom but merge to Abd-Allah ibn Abbas, reformatting as a paragraph rather than a tree (WP is not well suited for family trees). The AFD for Family tree of Uthman ibn Affan which resulted in no consensus is not a precedent for keeping, nor is the mere existence of a category. Esquizombi 18:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and delete, and remember to source per WP:V. Alba 23:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and delete as per Esquizombi. Striver should note two points - no consensus does not set a precedent for keeping this article and it would be better to focus your efforts on creating a genuine family tree for the Prophet Muhammad and the first four Caliphs instead of littering Wikipedia with misguided family trees centred on single individuals. Focus Striver, focus! Green Giant 00:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Bro, its not like i created this yesterday. And i did creat a family tree for them:

• Family tree of Muhammad
• Family tree of Ali
• Family tree of Umar
• Family tree of Uthman ibn Affan
• Family tree of Abu Bakr

And by the way, Ibn Abbas is no way a random single individual. --Striver 01:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I wasn't accusing you of creating them yesterday, but maybe you misunderstood my suggestion. What I mean't was a single family tree which highlights the Prophet and the Caliphs in bold, and around them as many of their relations as you want but keep it in line with Family tree of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt or any of the other Family trees of Egyptian dynasties. That way a reader can look at the tree and see the way that any two particular individuals are related. Ibn Abbas did not exist in a vacuum did he? He was related to several significant leaders of the Muslims, so he should be part of a larger family tree to illustrate this. Does that make any sense? Green Giant

• Merge and delete per above --Ugur Basak 01:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

• Endorse Green Giant's proposal -- whether that makes it a "keep" a "merge" or a "delete" I DNK. -- Simon Cursitor 08:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and delete as above. Family tree snapshots for every person isn't helpful to the reader. If the Egypt dynasty format applies that would work! Though I hope that doesn't lead to Family tree of a waiter who once served Muhammad a cup of coffee and such. Weregerbil 11:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, familycruft. — Mar. 29, '06 [06:53] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.