Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fallibroome High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was nomination withdrawn. Mailer Diablo 19:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fallibroome High School

Non notable school, info seems to be irrelevant James Kendall [talk] 11:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Retracted per consensus that all secondary schools should be included. James Kendall [talk] 23:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Could you please point me to the page where consensus regarding this has been reached? Not convention or precedent, but actual consensus. Elf-friend 09:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

• keep No i disagree. The information is relevant, pupils past and present will find it interesting informative. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.187.32.42 (talk • contribs).
• Delete - I'd PROD'd it before, but somebody cleaned up all of the school-cruft and made it into a facts-only stub. Unfortunately it looks like the cruft will keep coming back, and nobody seems that inclined to actually improve it, so I'm game to remove it completely. --Maelwys 11:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Conditional Keep - I'm willing to accept any high school might be considered notable enough to warrant it's own article, but only if there's a chance of it growing in productive content again, and not as a recepticle for inside jokes and commentary about non-notable students and staff. --Maelwys 19:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Article does not assert the importance or significance of its subject, thus delete. Elf-friend 11:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Once you cut out the non-encyclopedic opinions on teachers and the "notable pupils" section full of attacks, you're left with one line which states the age range and a box with the address. Wikipedia is not a phonebook or the yellow pages. This article doesn't present significance of the subject either. All reasons from WP:NOT and WP:CSD to delete it. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I've deleted the staff trivia. In other respects it is a legitimate article. It states that it is a school, which makes it significant. Honbicot 12:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep All schools are notable. ReeseM 12:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

As per what Wikipedia guideline or policy? Elf-friend 12:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete In its actual state, the article give non significant informations about a non notable school. Unless relevant and notable informations can be provided, there's no need to keep it! --Sam67fr 12:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I'm vaguely familiar with this school, and it's as notable as any other British school articles. I'll see waht I can do to improve it over the next few weeks. Aquilina 13:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Highscool. Someone needs to protect it from the IP user adding spurious information.--Isotope23 15:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, all high schools are notable. --Terence Ong 15:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Keep - but label as a stub and give them time to fix it. If nothing is added in due time than can resubmit for deletion.  : ) Lonesomedovechocolate 17:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I never agreed that all high schools are notable. Most of them, including this one, aren't. Brian G. Crawford 17:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep based on well established overwhelming precedent for schools, especially high schools. No guideline or policy could be used to justify deletion. Somebody wishing a merge, could discuss the matter on the talk page of the article, which is more productive than an AFD (who's result is as inevitable as an AFD on a township). --Rob 18:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I am disgusted at the prospect of this entry even being considered for deletion. It is a fair, first hand account of the thoughts of many students at the school. If this entry did not exist, we would have no direct voice to the outside world. Its information is reletive to the people who want to look back and remember the good old days. --Will 20:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.237.223 (talk • contribs) .
  • Comment You make great arguments for why you should be setting up a private webpage for alumnae of the school. Unfortunately Wikipedia is not a free host, blog, or webspace provider, so you should go find some other site to store your memories. --Maelwys 19:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Expand. All high schools are notable. However, this one needs to be expanded massively in an encyclopaedic manner, as in the history, sport teams, and so on. -- Jjjsixsix ^(t)/_(c) @ 19:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• A very reluctant Keep. It does seem that the listing of high schools has become the accepted convention. Unfortunate, in my opinion. Jonas Silk 19:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment By keeping this, do we then set the precedent for any school to have an article? Either it's only notable (famous) schools or all schools, imo. James Kendall [talk] 19:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment I think the precedent to keep high schools is more or less established; Middle and lower schools must have some claim to fame to be included, which is why Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue Hills Elementary School was made. (Alas, it's going to fail because of the lumping in of the entire district, since Faria Academic Plus School and Miller Middle School are notable schools in the district.) But per this, I think precedent has more or less been established. -- Jjjsixsix ^(t)/_(c) @ 21:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment - makes sense. So if I add my old school as an article (it's a secondary school) it is encyclopaedic? Or would it be classed as NN? I'm kind of turning this into a debate about what makes a school worthy of inclusion which is silly in some respects, but important in others. Should every secondary school be in Wikipedia? James Kendall [talk] 22:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
        • Theoretically, we are going down the road where every secondary school is going to be in Wikipedia; if you do indeed add your school, it most likely won't be chastised as nn, and won't be deleted unless it's an attack on the school. Even if it is taken to AFD, the result would be similar to this one, and a prod would likely be taken off. At least, that's my understanding. -- Jjjsixsix ^(t)/_(c) @ 22:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
          • In that case I retract my nomination. James Kendall [talk] 23:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Schools have a place on Wikipedia. --RabidMonkeysEatGrass 21:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per Elf-friend Imarek 21:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep per precedent for keeping schools. YellowPigNowNow 21:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep High school. Hawkestone 21:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I am a current student of the aquestioned high school and I no that this entry in wikipedia is important to the school. *You are all fools to doubt it. Without this topic there is no way for us to tell people what the school is truly like. You shouldn't be banishing this information, you should be praising the fact we are speaking about our school lives and informing people what teachers don't even know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.237.223 (talk • contribs).
  • No, useful info is necessary, not rubbish about a teacher being an 'ex-marine', or someone having 'manly beard growing talents'. I know 2 like that at my college and they are not encyclopaedic topics. They are regular guys. James Kendall [talk] 23:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep WP:SCH. Kotepho 13:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep almost all schools. bbx 05:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Moe ε 17:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.