Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabrangen Fiddlers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Bobet 20:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fabrangen Fiddlers

No evidence of notability per WP:MUSIC -Nv8200p talk 16:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Per nom. Added {{db-band}} to article, as it is a canidate for speedy. --Wildnox 17:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Keep per jmaebl ST47 18:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Republitarian 19:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. -- Visviva 06:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
• speedy delete bands not asserting notability can be speedied. Jon513 14:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Change vote to regular delete per shirahadasha. Jon513 17:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The article now imples that there were multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media, a criteria for inclusion per WP:MUSIC, however unless these works are found I stand by my delete. Jon513 07:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

• Wait I would not speedy-delete this article. The article appears to be making a claim that the band is of historical importance in the revival of klezmer music, that they were the "first music collective devoted to the rediscovery of Jewish folk music". I would give the authors and the community a couple of weeks to source and investigate the claim prior to taking action. --Shirahadasha 16:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
• Here's a reasonably citable source for that "first music collective devoted to the rediscovery of Jewish folk music" [1]. I'm guessing from their name that they were part of Fabrangen, a DC-area lay-led havurah dating back 35 years and which I think (but I don't quickly find anything citable) was one of the first of its kind (and several vaguely citable ) It's possibly that there would be more article potential for Fabrangen than for this musical group, but I think there is some potential here. I'm not quickly finding much on line, because it is buried in the mass of routine announcements of services, etc. - Jmabel | Talk 05:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • After quite a bit of searching I found this; search on the page for Fabrangen: probably not citable, but intriguing and, yes, it does connect the fiddlers to the havurah. This says Rabbi Arthur Waskow was a co-founder of Fabrangen. I suspect that there would be more in his books on Fabrangen itself, but probably not on the fiddlers as such. I also suspect that this is not going to be a super-easy one to research. But there is probably notability. So keep or move to Fabrangen as a start of something broader. - Jmabel | Talk 05:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
• This article should not be deleted. The Fabrangen Fiddlers were linked to Rabbi Arthur Waskow and the Fabrangen Chavurah community in Washington, DC. Please see major edit and additional reference from musicologist Nat Hentoff.theo424572 | Talk 10:15, 27 August 2006 (EDT)
• Note: I almost never do this, but I have now canvassed around to those who voted to delete and asked them to reconsider, based on the extensive additions, which I believe establish notability. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notability established. Sandy 01:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Per above --Wildnox 01:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep following the crowd here ~ trialsanderrors 09:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.