Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Everyday Life in the Marvel Universe

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 22:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Everyday Life in the Marvel Universe

Not worth an entire entry on Wikipedia, evident by the lack of research and citations that have gone into this fancruft listing. Just a collection of non-noteworthy details, some only from a single comic book. SilentTannenbaum 04:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete First, it's everyday life, which is already lame. Second, it's in a fictional universe, so it should probably be merged there if not deleted. M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It got put into a new article as it had grown too large for the original article about the Marvel Universe that contained it. There is information here which I didn't know, and I'm a big fan of Marvel comics. It's no worse than the hundreds of articles about Pokémon. Satan's Rubber Duck 12:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

...hundreds of articles about what?? What?? WHAT??? ;) Deizio talk 14:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Took me a minute to realize what he meant, too, Deizio, but if you click edit page, you'll see he was saying "articles about pokemon", but he put a category link which which puts the marker you see at the bottom of the page instead of the text in his entry. Elijya 14:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

So that's why today's log is in the Pokemon category... Deizio talk 15:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it so it will appear now. Mangojuice^talk 16:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry everyone. Satan's Rubber Duck 16:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, pushing the fictional universe fanpulp series beyond the pale here. Everything in the list is entirely incidental to the importance of the Marvel stories, no encyclopedic content. Deizio talk 14:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, I personally found it informative, there's no reason this information shouldn't be here. Yes, it is tied to a fictional universe, however this fictional universe is arguably the largest one ever created, which necessitates the division of information into different articles. And I hardly think the assertation that "everyday life...is lame" is a meritous argument for deletion. Elijya 14:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep With stipulation that more sources need to be cited. This article would be too unwieldy as part of Marvel Universe but does provide further canonical information about the Marvel Universe. Psyphics 14:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Listify? This article contains mostly a bunch of separate lists of companies, people, groups, etc., basically, all things in the marvel universe that are mundane. I think most of the content here should be in one or more lists... but what lists? List of notable non-mutants in Marvel Universe could be one, et cetera. The first couple of paragraphs are interesting, but could easily be merged into Marvel Universe. In theory, I could see an article about how everyday life is portrayed in the Marvel Universe, and I could see it being interesting, but this is just a big list of ordinary things and not informative. If I must pick a vote, I would say "keep and tag for attention", because there's too much splitting to be done by someone closing an AfD; I think editors will have to actually get involved here. Mangojuice^talk 16:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom and Deiz: totally fancruft to the limit! --P199 17:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-encyclopedic fancruft. Eusebeus 18:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Listify One of the lists would be Public identities of Marvel superheroes, which would cover much of this. Septentrionalis 18:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep, usually I would consider this fancruft, but the Marvel Universe is big, detailed, and famous enough to be notable. JIP | Talk 18:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Change name to Fictional brands in the Marvel Universe as part of the Archive of fictional things. Ihavenolife 23:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - As the article's creator and contributor of 99 percent of the content, I find myself in agreement with the nominator. I have contributed more and more to Wikipedia, and I have come to think this list really does not belong on this site. It's fan service stuff; something I have enjoyed compiling, but even some of the lists that it is being suggested as being split into seem inconsequential and non-noteworthy. I'd rather it bedeleted from the site; I have kept a copy for myself so perhaps I can continue this for my own private use or share it with others elsewhere. Either way, it doesn't follow the rules of Wikipedia, because it's a different kind of project. Just think of it as a pet project that got put in the wrong place. Please delete. Thanks.--Chris Griswold 05:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - I actually found this quite interesting, but it's too much like original research, grabbing bits and pieces to put together a novel construction of the author's own. Metamagician3000 10:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, when I read about Original Research on Wikipedia, that's when I knew what I had done didn't fit here. It's not just a normal listing, it's one with an editorial slant to it. I'm not at all saying that the work I did wasn't good; just that it doesn't fit the purpose of Wikipedia. --Chris Griswold 14:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• keep please this is famous enough to be notable Yuckfoo 22:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Everything in this article is either important enough to the Marvel Universe to merit its own article already, or utterly sub-trivial and not worth mentioning at all. -Sean Curtin 06:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Boring comicbook filler Ewlyahoocom 20:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per page creator's request. Inherently biased to a particular POV (who defines "everyday"?) and OR. Vizjim 09:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• In the event the eventual decision is deletion (the votes aren't that far apart now, I'm not sure what margin is required for "no concensus"), may I suggest new locations are found for some of this information before the article is removed? Perhaps a section could be placed in the Marvel Universe article? Elijya 18:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
  • That's where this article started out, but it became too big... Satan's Rubber Duck 19:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, but perhaps it could be divied up between there and some other places. Elijya 20:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.