Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enfo's Team Survival

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. SushiGeek 01:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enfo's Team Survival

The article is an extensive explanation of and guide to a Warcraft III custom map. Wikipedia is not the place for a gaming guide nor a repository for original research. Habap 14:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Deli nk 15:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. —LrdChaos 19:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. There are many game mod articles on Wikipedia; my objections are to ones that don't cross the bar of relative notability. This one does. Original research it certainly is not -- not with 23 editors working on it, to date. RGTraynor 19:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. While this is of borderline relevance, it certainly isn't a game guide, nor original research. - Discombobulator^talk 20:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment It claims to only be an article about a custom map and not a mod. That 20-some mostly anonymous editors made changes does not prevent it from being OR. Is this information published anywhere else? Or did these 23 editors add the information simply from their first-hand knowledge of the game? If it hasn't been published somewhere reputable, then it's original research. If it is notable (and nothing in the article makes a claim to notability for this custom map), then the information will need to be verified. --Habap 20:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Errrr ... were you unaware that custom maps in Warcraft III are what other games call "mods?" RGTraynor 20:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Sadly, I've never played a custom map on WCIII. I liked the first two, but never got into WCIII - played for a few days and lost interest. I assumed that since they didn't call them mods, there were no changes to the game mechanics for most of these maps. Having read the information on DotA and DotA:Allstars, I got the impression that some custom maps were just different maps, but others incomparated far different game play (the DotA's and such). There are dozens of custom maps listed and most of them have terrible articles and don't seem any different from the original game. Additionally, the problem of original research comes up. Also, what is this mods claim to notability? How many people play it? Is there something unique about it that we'd want it in an encyclopedia instead of a Warcraft III wiki? --Habap 21:22, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: belongs in a Warcraft III wiki - not here. --Hetar 22:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information about non-notable game derivative works. Stifle (talk) 22:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Moe ε 18:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Stifle Sandstein 18:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.