Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Patti "Diamondlady" Diamond, DD

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. (ESkog)^(Talk) 02:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Patti "Diamondlady" Diamond, DD

Where to start on this one? The article appears to be self-written, and is indescribable; you have to read it. (One of the section headings is: "The Wisdom From the Infinitely Spiritual Light BEing Channeled Through Dr. Patti "Diamondlady" Diamond, DD.") Generates 79 unique GHits, just about all of of which appear to be self-generated, mainly press-release sites and forums. Her books are published by Lulu, a print-on-demand operation; one has an Amazon sales rank of "None", the other about 1.9 million. Her "doctorate" (every single mention of her contains the "DD") is from Universal Ministries, the people who will ordain anyone for a couple bucks. I see no evidence of any genuine notability, and this looks like advertising. Fan-1967 21:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Note Author just vandalized this AFD in this edit. I think that gives a pretty good indication. Fan-1967 21:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Delete as advertising. I just reverted an attempt by the author and subject to vandalize this AfD. Please watch for this sort of thing. And don't close this as speedy; lets get a nicely documented explanation here of exactly why this person is non-notable and pure self-promotion. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Note: Not a vandalizing, simply feel it is unnecessary for you to slander a person such as myself for attempting to assist people on this earth. I am sharing my thoughts here on this deletion nothing more. Wayne Dyer, Esther Hick, and many others on here all get to have their works listed to assist all souls here. And while my docorate is with Universal Ministries, if you actually take the time to read my sites in their entirety you will see that I am free from being just about this doctorate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.128.202.194 (talk • contribs).

• If you change my words, which are above my signature, you identify yourself as a liar and a vandal. No excuses can change that. Fan-1967 22:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• CommentYou may be free to call me as you wish however, I will say again, this is free from being a consituted reason for this page to be deleted. I will say yet again, * Note: Not a vandalizing, simply feel it is unnecessary for you to slander a person such as myself for attempting to assist people on this earth. I am sharing my thoughts here on this deletion nothing more. Wayne Dyer, Esther Hick, and many others on here all get to have their works listed to assist all souls here. And while my docorate is with Universal Ministries, if you actually take the time to read my sites in their entirety you will see that I am free from being just about this doctorate. It is about helping souls not about self promotion. Wayne Dyer and others are not considered self promoters are they? No, they are considered to be respected members of the world helping others, which is all I am attempting to do. Read my websites in their entirety and you will come to understand this. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diamondlady1025 (talk • contribs).

• Anyone reading this can see your edit, and use it to judge what kind of person you are. I believe the facts speak for themselves. Fan-1967 22:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Assertion of notability ("internationally-known") takes us outside A7, but there's no _evidence_ of notability - there are many tens of thousands of palmists, tarot readers, angel therapists, mediums, psychics, astrologers, and similar practitioners of these "arts" in this world, and Ms Diamond doesn't appear to be at all different from the great mass of them.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tevildo (talk • contribs).
• Delete Advert; doesn't quit meet WP:BIO guidlines: Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work. One book has no sales rank on Amazon, the other has a rank of 1,912,985. If this survives afd, it would requir a substantial rewrite (cleaning up WP:POV and unverified claims, including removal of "The Wisdom" section. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thank you Jaime for this information. I may be free from having any reviews or awards, however, I am internationally known as I have assisted souls here on this earth globally with readings healings and so on, as well as, my books are sold and known all over the globe and this is what the statement means. My testimonials on my webpage clearly attest to this. If I am free from being indifferent to the great mass of other souls, then I invite you to read the global articles I have published which are found on ezine articles and children of the new earth magazine, both global publications. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diamondlady1025 (talk • contribs).

• Comment The deletion review is not meant to imply a judgement of accomplishments by an article's subject. Rather, Wikipedia has certain notability guidelines that subjects would hopefully meet. The one that best applies for this particular topic is WP:BIO, which provides guidelines for notability for individual people. If any of the listed guidelines can be met, WP policy requires that this be reflected in the subject's article with verifiable citations. If this is done to the satisfaction of a consensus of WP editors, articles that are nominated for deletion survive the process. -- H·G (^words/_works) 22:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment What you wrote is considered here on this earth as slanderous and uncalled for. You are free to your views, yes, but not to the detriment of another, which is clearly what has been written by you, which is why I edited what you wrote. This really shows the kind of person that you are and if you are to call me a vandal it is only because who you believe I am being is a mirror of who you are being. And it seems this assessment is to be so considering if you go to your page here Fan-1967 people can read all about your vandalism, thus you are correct, the fact do speak for themselves. I stand by what I have written in all of my remarks here, editing yours and otherwise as again it is free from being about me vandalizing, as I am free from being so, I am merely assisting all souls on this earth. Even you who are here being invited to learn this life lesson or soul remembering through this exchange here. I used to be as you are choosing to be right now, and I am free from this any longer. Thank you for showing me who I used to be and who I am free from choosing to be any longer. Thank you for bringing these life lessons and soul rememberings to me and to all to see and learn, remember, embrace, and treasure. You are a beautiful, wonderful soul. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your gift.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diamondlady1025 (talk • contribs).
  • Thank you for whomever did this as I was unaware I needed to sign my postings:) Thank you:) - Dr. Patti Diamondlady Diamond, DD
    • Comment the easiest way to sign your posts is to follow each one with four tildes (~~~~). This affixes your signature automatically. -- H·G (^words/_works) 22:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment You may have misunderstood what is on my userpage. The note says that the page has been protected because it has been vandalized by others in the past. Fan-1967 22:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Ah it appears so. Seems then you also have misunderstood me as well, which would be a joint misuderstanding of each other. Such wonderful mirrors we are for each other. Thank you. I believe that we are then left in a space of infinite nothingness of simply allowing for each other to be.Diamondlady1025
• Speedy Delete elements of article are copyvio of press release[1]. Otherwise, delete as failing to meet WP:BIO (only 21 unique Google hits for '"patti diamond" diamondlady') and WP:SPAM. -- H·G (^words/_works) 22:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Yes this is apart of the press release, however, it is the wisdom that is channeled through Spirit and it is shared all over the globle to assist others in infinite ways. Thus, inlcuded in a press release as well as infinite other forms to assist other souls to find this wisdom. Thank you.Diamondlady1025

• Comment. Be that as it may, Wikipedia guidelines require that content not violate copyright laws and guidelines. Additionally, the use of materials from press releases is usually viewed as violating WP policies on advertisements and neutral point of view. -- H·G (^words/_works) 22:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete of course. Fails WP:BIO, WP:V, WP:AUTO, WP:SPAM, and WP:NPOV (not all of which are valid reasons for deletion, but just goes to show how much work would have to be put into this even if the subject was notable.)--Kchase T 23:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Maybe if you get on Montel Williams' show, then... Danny Lilithborne 00:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete for failing WP:VAIN, WP:SPAM, WP:BIO, WP:V, etc. -- Scientizzle 02:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Also, I wish to henceforth be known as a 'wisdom gifter'.Hornplease 06:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Help all souls on Wikipedia by deleting this article per WP:VAIN. Vandalizing a talk page and then trying to claim that you are innocent and altuistic. Please. If that happens again, this user should be blocked. JChap (Talk) 15:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:SPAM and WP:BIO. --Kinu ^t/_c 18:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• I've been channelling a Spirit which tells me that my contribution should be Delete. Do I get an article about me now? Byrgenwulf 10:31, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and salt, per Kchase02. Stifle (talk) 21:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I'd say she's completely condemned by her own edits.--Runcorn 20:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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