Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demon of Laplace (computer game)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 22:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demon of Laplace (computer game)

Doesn't seem very notable but I'm happy to be guided by you game experts. BlueValour 21:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep; popular enough for one set of fans to translate it ([1]) while another fan thought it worth a Wikipedia article. I'd say that any video game that has multiple apparently-independent fan followings in countries it was never even officially released in is probably notable enough for a short article like this. — Haeleth Talk 21:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. SevereTireDamage 23:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete While I truly appreciate Aeon Genesis' excellent translation efforts, they often choose cult and virtually unknown games. This game was never officially translated, and (I'm not sure honestly) it seems to have been unpopular as well, never having a sequel nor been made by a notable developer (Hummingbird Soft?). I'm open to hearing new information that could prove otherwise. --SevereTireDamage 23:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Not even listed on GameFAQs. As far as I'm concerned any game that got a release on a major console in an English-speaking area is sufficiently notable. However, this didn't and has no apparent ties to anything that is notable in the Anglophone world, so delete. Ace of Sevens 04:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It's a game released commercially on a major system. It doesn't have to be more notable then that. Aren'r wikipedia supposed to be a "complete" encyclopedia? Well, for that to happen we'll need this game too. Also, the game is featured on GameFAQs as "Laplace no Ma", due to the fact that the L doesn't exist in the Japanese language and a few other language rule that can be found on here, the exact correct Japanese title is ラプラスの魔 which in romaji is written out Rapurasu No Ma. The reason why it's not listed as that is because it's reference to this man, thus we know that it's supposed to be Laplace, they just can't write it. (Djungelurban 11:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC))
• Weak Keep but definitely needs cleanup. I'm not sure why this game is referred to as "Demon of Laplace" since the usual translation of ラプラスの魔 is Laplace's demon. -- Buuneko 11:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The name issue is, however weird it might sound, up to Gideon Zhi to decide. This is after all the English Wikipedia aimed towards English speakers, thus whatever title that game will have upon release of the patch, that is the name the game will have in it's English version, it's the name that English speakers will be most familiar with and also the name that the game will carry on the site. (Djungelurban 18:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC))

Well, I've seen Gideon Zhi refer to it both ways on agtp.romhack.net. -- Buuneko 14:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Wikipedia's supposed to cover the whole world, not just the Anglophone parts of it. More sources would be nice, as always... Ziggurat 21:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - I agree that we need to look beyond the Anglophone world. However, just because a game has been launched on a platform doesn't make it notable. The article, despite this AfD, has not been expanded to assert notability which leads me to suspect that there probably is none. BlueValour 22:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, not being released in English is irrelevant. Any game officially released on a major games platform such as the SNES is notable. Proto::type 15:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.