Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darren Hayday

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete at request of article creator ([1]). Will userfy. kingboyk 22:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darren Hayday

He appears locally notable but I don't think this passes the international-online-encyclopedia notability test. He's a local politician who runs his own business and the fact that the article was started by User:Hayday makes it look like vanity, too. Francs2000 23:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

• Userfy (i.e. delete from main space). nn. --kingboyk 23:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Unremarkable. Vanity. -- Krash (Talk) 00:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, vanity. Ned Wilbury 15:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Darren Hayday comments: I am the person (human being) that started this page & I have since read the smaller print to what can & what can't be written. I agree that I shouldn't have written it. I thought that being an elected Councillor, doing voluntary charity work, helping the less fortunate and having the great honour of being my home-town Mayor was an achievement, especially living in days that people are turned off by playing a role in politics and caring about there local community. Also because I am a young guy, I would very much like to encourage other young people to get more involved in politics and to help in their local community.

I can understand about the business part – I could have been asked to remove it. I am also proud of my ancestors that helped to form my own political ambitions. However, I don’t agree that my whole site is to be removed by a bigot who is against my own sexuality & choice of politics. This was only marked for deletion because I dared to write a stub on Sir Nigel Crisps. Why should my whole site be removed because of that? I enjoy making research and helping to grow Wikipedia – why should you have the right to stop that? I will take out all references to my own business activities and the site will stay, do you agree with that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.41.241.203 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 10 March 2006.

• (wikified the above) Userify Please don't be insulted that people are suggesting deletion and referencing the WP:VAIN guidelines. Give them a read, and also please read Assume good faith. in general we tend to say that if a person is encyclopedic, someone else will write the article, and if they are not, if no one else wrote it, it's probably not a good idea that they write their own article. Users who contribute to other articles here are given wide latitude in what they can have in their userspace, subject only to good taste and civility, so if you are a contributor here, Userify-ing the article is a good outcome as it keeps the material here. If and when someone else decides that you're notable enough to write an article, you can then point them to the info saved and they can validate it for inclusion. Hope that helps and happy editing. ++Lar: t/c 15:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• Darren Hayday comments: Thank you, that was a fair comment and I totally agree! I was not happy in the way that User:Francs2000 approached the situation, it seemed that he had a grudge against me. Thank you for being polite.
  • Comment I was doing what I thought was the right thing. You are more than welcome to challenge my opinion constructively in this forum, and I did invite you to do so on the discussion page of the article itself. However when you vandalised my user page was where I lost all respect for you. You'll get more respect in discussions like this if your actions are above reproach. -- Francs2000 19:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

    PS being homophobic about your opponents in debate is generally considered a political no-no. -- Francs2000 20:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Err... I received a message from Darren Hayday - as did the other contributors - to come back and look at this debate, which I have done. However I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Is it a request to userfy and close the debate, a complaint, or just a headsup that new comments have been posted? --kingboyk 19:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
• Userfy seems like a reasonable suggestion, to me. PJM 20:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.