Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cypress Woods High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cypress Woods High School

I'm not very familiar with the notability standards when it comes to articles about schools, but this one just doesn't seem notable. At all. --Missmarple 21:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep as is customary. Gazpacho 21:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

  Delete since it's not open. Gazpacho 04:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. It is a notable school. Carioca 22:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Custom is that High schools are kept, lower schools have to be notable in some other way. --PresN 22:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete precedent isn't binding in AfD. Wether or not it is notable should be decided on a case by case basis, not as a blanket assumption. Consider what wikipedia would be like under the "every high school is notable for being a high school" policy. With every single school accross the english speaking world having their own article. Thousands of articles that are utterly useless to everyone except those in the immediate area. Wikipedia would be one big education guide. Yes, I understand the argument that we spend a large amount of our lives in there but why does that make them notable? We also spend a large amount of our time sitting on the toilet in our house - do you think that makes it notable enough to write an article about? (extreme example obviously, if you try and pick holes in the arguement soley because of this example you don't have a leg to stand on) Some schools are notable, as a melbourne example the big private schools that everyone knows about are notable ie. Scotch College, Melbourne, Melbourne Grammar School, Methodist Ladies' College, Melbourne and Trinity Grammar School, Victoria. But what exactly makes your local high school notable on its own? Viridae^Talk 22:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete as is customary with non-notable secondary schools. Must have some proof that it is worthy of recognition. User:Lord Hawk 23:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per wikipedia is not a webdirectory (of schools in this case) and not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- Koffieyahoo 01:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete In addition to the usual lack of an assertion of notability; we also get the special bonus of contradicting the one fact about it in the school district article, so there is a WP:V failure to boot. The school district article says that this school hasn't even opened yet, thus bringing in Wikipedia is not a crystal ball concerns to go with the usual Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. GRBerry 02:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, the school is going to open in 2006 - It's not like this is just a plan in the CFISD school office - the school will open in 2006. WhisperToMe 05:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per Viridae Pinkstarmaci 05:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, the school apparently has not opened yet, and there is absolutely no assertion of notability. Fails verifiability policy for being contradictory (established in 2005, opens in 2006?). Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of crystal balls or information. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 07:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Uninteresting, non-notable high school. Doesn't even have a band. Catchpole 07:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete with no prejudice against future re-creation. — Only because the school is apparently not open yet and so doesn't meet my personal criteria for notability. But it's covered on the school district page, so that's good enough for now. :-) — RJH (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - The school is almost finished construction and scheduled to open in a few weeks. - IMO, if delete passes, I'd instead merge and redirect into the district page. WhisperToMe 05:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - I have added a substantial amount of information to this article, complete with citations. WhisperToMe 20:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep all verifiable government-funded public institutions. --Centauri 03:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • And why does that make it notable? Viridae^Talk 03:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Notability is subjective, irrelevant and not established as a formal WP policy. WP:V is among the most important - if not the most important - of all Wikipedia's policies. --Centauri 12:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I can verify that a public toilet exists in melbourne. Does that make the information worthwhile of inclusion on wikipedia? While WP:N is not a policy, there are many guidlines for notability. Viridae^Talk 12:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
        • An article on Melbourne public toilets would indeed be a good thing, as a number of them are certainly of more than passing historical interest - however public hygiene facilities are of much less significance than schools, which are funded to the order of many millions of dollars, over many dozens of years, employ hundreds of staff, and impact large slabs of the lives of whole communities of people across many generations. --Centauri 11:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
          • Schools and the education system are notable indeed. But like the few public toilets of historic interest, only a small subset of schools are notable on their own. So what is it about schools that makes them inherantly notable? The majority of school articles contain unverfied (and possibly unverifiable for wikipedias purposes, discounting original research) information about the number of classrooms the names of many of the teachers and the students favourite after-school activities or other random, uninteresting, non-notable and often un-verifiable facts about the school. Viridae^Talk 12:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per the reasons listed at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. The article is well written and the school is opening next week. Silensor 02:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Silensor and my belief that secondary level educational institutions and above are notable. Yamaguchi先生 19:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.