Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curbing

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. --Titoxd^(?!?) 00:10, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Curbing

I'm fairly sure that this article is mostly made up, and that its only notable instance occured in the film "American History X" Holdek ^(talk) 06:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. - Holdek ^(talk) 06:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom jnothman ^talk 06:14, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• Weak delete. Definitely looks like most of it is made up, but I'm not sure if the subject matter itself quite as non-notable as one might think; if nothing else, there's a persistent urban legend going around about gang executions by curbstomping, and it has been seen in fiction besides American History X, and since it's a pretty specific, graphic and nasty thing to do, it's a lot more notable than "punch" by default... If someone more knowledgeable than me were to take a hand at rewriting it, I might very well vote the other way. -- Captain Disdain 07:27, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• Interesting. I have little doubt that the term is indeed used in this manner to describe the type of violent attack and ensuing injury described in the article (although the bits like "Curbing is a relatively modern method of 'messing people up' that is regularly used by gangs worldwide to kill their victims" are nonsense). However, it is a slang term; if accepted at all on a wikiproject, it should be in Wiktionary. As to the consequences of this type of beating, it would be best to describe them in medical articles, for example maxillofacial fractures/maxillofacial trauma, LeFort fractures, mandibular fracture, palatal fracture, orbital apex injury, etc. (As you can see from the red-links, Wikipedia has a long way to go.) Del unless adequate references are available that would satisfy Wiktionary, in which case pare down to an accurate one sentence definition and transwiki. encephalon 07:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, agreed. Obviously it'd have to be more than just a dicdef. I'm somewhat skeptical of anyone managing to write that myself, as my vote probably indicates. =) -- Captain Disdain 09:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• Transwiki to wiktionary under curb stomping. -Andrew 17:48, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as nonsense. --Carnildo 23:58, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
• transwiki to wikitionary curbing. not a neologism, the term was fairly widely used among my friends 15 - 20 years ago. Pete.Hurd 21:44, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

• Both Wikipedia and Wiktionary require adequate references to reputable sources for material written in their respective mainspaces. I am less familiar with the precise requirements of Wiktionary, but am fairly sure that anecdotal references to usage among friends will not satisfy them. If there are references available that would meet Wiktionary's source requirements, I agree with you that transwiki+delete would be acceptable. As it stands however, I know only that this entry is best deleted from Wikipedia. encephalon 21:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.