Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cs deathmatch

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The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:12, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cs_deathmatch

This is a fan made map which next to no one plays. A refresh of all steam servers right now, shows zero servers playing it. There are so many "fun" servers out there, if it is a popular "fun" map like fy_iceworld, there will be a server up with it. - Hahnchen 01:20, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

• weak keep. I've never played this level, but it is plausible that it is pretty popular (lots of google hits), and this is a decent article. I think the steam thing may be a red herring, because the screenshots are from classic counter-strike, and to my understanding, steam only supports CS:source. If this level is only for cs classic, then it wouldn't show up on steam. (Is this accurate?) — brighterorange (talk) 01:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - No, Steam supports all HL1 engine games too. It may be a well written article with accompanying screenshots, but this map is non notable. Should we have warcraft 3 custom maps on wikipedia? What about fan made single player mods for HL1? I've been playing CS for many years, and this map has never taken off. Whereas some fan made maps have definitely been popular, fy_iceworld being the first one to spring to mind, cs_deathmatch hasn't. Steam can be a bit of a red herring, for example not a single server is online right now playing de_jeepathon2k, yet that map was officially included in beta 7 (I think) and was the first map to introduce the failed idea of drivable vehicles. Cs_deathmatch though has never been popular. - Hahnchen 11:54, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• weak keep. fair amount of detail, seems interesting Astrokey44 03:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable fanmade game addon. android79 13:49, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete: Wikipedia is not GameFAQs. It's a mod. That's great. Now, where are the magazine reviews of it? Where is evidence of how it changed the game? What acts of Congress/Parliament were influenced by it? The fact that it's detailed is more of a reason to delete than include, as it would be possible for any author to go into exceptional detail about her or his own fantasies or fiction. Length is not the criterion, but significance, multiple contexts, references, each of these is. Geogre 15:30, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Actually, it's a map for a mod. Counter-Strike (the mod) is certainly notable; this map isn't. So, put me down for a delete as well. Al 18:38, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fan-made map with little to no evidence (unverifiable?) of notability. --Icelight 15:48, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Geogre. IMO a game mod needs to acheive a high level of popularity or infamy (ala Hot Coffee) to merit its own article. CS deathmatch just doesn't fit that bill.--Isotope23 16:41, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete I agree with above. Dottore So 17:06, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. A fan-made addon is essentially fanfic which we do not usually retain per WP:FICT. -Splash 17:27, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - Mods and maps of games should fall under the game article if it is that popular or even under the programmer/author if they are that popular but not have its own article --Terry 17:34, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fan-made map, not notable, not encyclopedic material. --167.79.56.136 18:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Oops, my connection timed out. The above vote is mine. --Fang Aili 18:13, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Agree with sentiments expressed above; individual FPS game maps are not notable in and of themselves. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete As great as this map is, we can't go around including articles about individual levels in FPS games. Amren ^(talk) 21:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

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