Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticisms of Opera

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of Opera

Non-referenced and the "criticism" is POV, just as if it was an article on "eulogy" of Opera. ;-) The facts should be merged in the main article, but not as non-sourced opinions. bogdan 10:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as nominator. bogdan 10:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Merge criticism articles - FrancisTyers · 10:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and merge, per above. Ruaraidh-dobson 11:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and source. We have Criticisms of Internet Explorer and Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox, why should Opera be different? - Sikon 11:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: It shouldn't be different. But why not merge all of them into the respective master articles? --logixoul 20:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, source, and majorly clean up - I think the article is perfectly legit, as per Sikon, but it reads like a gossip column or someone speaking to you, not an encyclopedic article. Too many contractions and colloquialisms. Slap POV warning and cleanup tags on it, but let it stay. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. Would suggest merge to Opera (web browser) if the content was sourced. Even if it was sourced, there is not enough sourced material here to justify a separate article yet; 'criticisms' section can be split out later from the main article if and when the section grows too big. --BrownHairedGirl 11:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. Dionyseus 14:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup per Sikon and Vanderdecken, but move to Criticisms of Opera (browser). I thought this would be about fat chicks dressed as Vikings, and looked at it hoping there were pictures. Smerdis of Tlön 14:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Perfectly fine article IMHO. You guys are such deletionists. (comment added by E-Magination)
• Either Keep and Clean Up or Merge and delete ALL "Criticisms of..." articles. I think they should stay personally, but if we're going to do away with them, they should all be done away with. - seinman 17:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup, but merge if the article stays as short as it is. At the current length there's no reason to have a separate article. Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per above. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 16:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. If this is kept, it should be moved to "Criticisms of Opera (web browser)". I thought it was initially about the art form. Acyso 23:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and trim significantly unless sourced. Compare with the Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox article. Captainktainer * Talk 03:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Opera, and this applies to all Criticism of articles. --logixoul 08:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Nothing but POV. - Mjg0503 03:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom.--00Goldeneye 16:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, we have Criticisms of Internet Explorer and Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox. Eyu100 18:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: but do we need to? --logixoul 20:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Opera. I'd really like to see the same done with the Microsoft Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox critism pages. --DMAJohnson 20:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and expand or Merge if not. Either way, clean up, as it's pretty bad. We have Criticisms of Firefox and IE, why not Opera (just because it's best?) -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 04:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC) currently editing with Firefox, using IE for WP:AWB, and downloading a Led Zeppelin torrent with Opera
  • Why not delete Criticisms of Firefox and IE, too? --logixoul 09:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Okay, nominate them, too. Just because an article is messy isn't a reason to delete it. (Disclaimer: I'm a deletionist. But if you want to delete "Criticisms of Opera", delete the IE and Firefox counterparts too.) - Sikon 17:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Why? the Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox and Criticisms of Internet Explorer pages are handled a lot better than this article. The coverage is a lot more complete and better balanced in the other articles. Captainktainer * Talk 18:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.