Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of George W. Bush
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Speedy close as an inappropriate forum for the discussion of merging articles. Add a {{merge|<target article>}} tag and discuss on the Talk page. (aeropagitica) 13:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Criticism of George W. Bush
Before you all jump over me for even thinking about nominating this page for AfD, hear me out. I'm nominating this page to call attention to the fact that this article, under its current title, is a classic example of a POV fork. The content need not necessarily be deleted (apologies for bad form for using AfD in this manner). It's my understanding that this article actually used to be titled Public perception and assessments of George W. Bush, a much better title, and one I would favour renaming to, although the fact that it used to be titled "Criticism" would mean such an article would be extremely POV at the moment.
In short, this article should either be renamed as before, or merged back into the main Bush article. In its current form, this article is precisely what Wikipedia:Content forking was written to prevent. I cannot stress this enough: just because Bush is a guy who has receives a lot of criticism does not justify forking all criticism into a separate article. Such an action fundamentally violates NPOV, which is non-negotiable.
One more thing: this may become some sort of precedent, as there is a whole list of similarly-titled "Criticism of ..." articles at Wikipedia:List of POV forks. Do consider whether those articles are justified forking criticism into a separate article, not just this article. Again I stress: volume of criticism is not justification for creating a POV fork. I cannot see how these articles can be kept in their current form.
I trust we can all discuss this in a civil manner, according to Wikipedia policy and not our own political beliefs. theProject 07:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Move The title is really POV, but the article itself isn't that bad - cited sources, approval ratings, etc. I wouldn't have put it at AfD though, there's quite a risk of knee-jerk reactions. Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 09:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy close AfD is to discuss possible deletion, not merging or renaming. -- Kicking222 13:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, AfD is not the place to discuss merging, only deletion. Also note that sections from articles are allowed to be split off, and if this was part of an article, it would be titled "Criticism." — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 13:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.