Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CowboyNeal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CowboyNeal (moved to Jonathan Pater)

Why's this page still here after two years? Anyway, this article should be gotten rid of due to the simple fact that this selfproclaimed cowboy does not pass any criteria let out in WP:BIO.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING^(Я) 13:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete — CSD A7 (but disputed) Martinp23 13:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep - based on my ignorance of the term "editor" in Slashdot (confusing it with a wikipedia editor (duh!)), I voted delete earlier. It's pointed out below that I made a mistake, and so I'm changing my vote to reflect that Martinp23 14:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

DOES NOT MEAT CSD A7!!! just google "cowboyneal", honestly. i kan reed 13:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment -- An assertation of notability needs to be made, and nowhere in the article in question does it say that Cowboyneal is a cofounder of slashdot, just mentioning him as an editor. I have changed my vote above to reflect your disagreement with it. Martinp23 14:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment -- There are 2, such assertions, however, the article probably needs {{context}} more than deletion. I'll see what I can do in that regards. The two assertions(if weak ones) are that he's an editor of slashdot, which in notability is about the same as being an editor for the new york times(maybe that's slightly overdoing it, but my guess would be about the same readership levels on both things). Then again, I may be overestimating slashdot's importance. I'd still go with strong keep.

• Strong keep Partial founder of Slashdot, which more than meets WP:CORP and WP:WEB, additionally, a used as a strong part of the slashdot subculture(for things like "cowboyneal option" and such). Good faith, but poorly informed nomination. i kan reed 13:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

While the "cowboyneal option" is not really a good assertion of notability (not to merit its own article, at least). However, I could see why being co-founder of Slashdot would be. I'm not withdrawing my nomination though. I've tried to verify this using Google, but it has proven impossible. If someone can do this nonetheless, then I'll be willing to withdraw this afd.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING^(Я) 15:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable, or at least as notable as other kept junk, or merge into Slashdot. Also, it is not a fluke that the article has been around for two years with two dozen editors passing through and none of them tagging it for deletion. Also, note that CSD is specifically for unremarkable people or vanity pages, and the "assertion" requirement is a further restriction beyond that. It is not designed to delete articles about notable people which happen to not make a strong assertion of notability. While the CSD is prone to this error, if there is some indication that the person is in fact notable (and the person tagging or deleting should check), then it does not qualify. —Centrx→talk • 14:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Slashdot is notable, but a convincing case for Cowboyneal's notability has not been made. Editors are not automatically notable, even if they're editing something popular. wikipediatrix 14:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge. More notable than the GNAA. Gamaliel 15:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep or Merge per Gamaliel. --HResearcher 02:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep If the nominator has to ask "Why's this page still here after two years", they should also consider that maybe, just maybe, the answer to that question is "the person in question is notable". Being a cofounder, editor, and notable personality (as in "that guy from the poll options") at Slashdot is notable enough in my book. Spend a while in Slashdot, and you're bound to run into him. (Disclosure: ~WWWWolf, Slashdot user #2428 =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 09:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep if somebody can provided a citation that he's a co-founder of Slashdot, otherwise delete. Very poor article, but if he's really a co-founder of Slashdot that's all the notability we need. I've renamed and slight-tidied the article to make it look more like a conventional biography than a piece of fancruft. --kingboyk 13:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment That could be tricky - most places, including Slashdot's own FAQ, give CmdrTaco as the sole founder. - makomk 13:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
    • In that case, Delete per Wikipediatrix. --kingboyk 13:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• keep this can probably be moved back to cowboyneal for the same reason eazy-e is not eric lynn wright Yuckfoo 22:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
• keep easily. // Gargaj 22:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per the above. --Myles Long 22:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Duh Keep  ALKIVAR™ 00:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. CowboyNeal is an integral and engrained part of Slashdot and its culture. Yamaguchi先生 00:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.