Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comrade Dr. Edward Ikem Okeke
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete as unverified. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comrade Dr. Edward Ikem Okeke
No sources, bad title, no significant Google hits. Non-notable. —Sesel 05:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- If there were any Google hits at all, I'd vote keep and cleanup, but there is nothing for "Edward Ikem Okeke" or "Edward Okeke". Edward Okeke without quotes brings up nothing meaningful. Delete unless sourced (at which point, rename). User:Zoe|(talk) 05:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep This site [1] calls him a prominent native of Anambra. Endomion 06:20, 26 December 2005 (UTC)- Wikipedia is not its own source. Again, read to the bottom of the page. Uncle G 07:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Ohshit, this is the guy that keeps sending me nigerian spam offering to send me $20,000,000 (TWENTY MILLION U.S. DOLLARS). --Timecop 06:40, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- No fair, I got dibs on that, I saw him first. Flyboy Will 09:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep
Since Endomion has found a web reference, which does show up on Google, there is verification.Could be moved to Edward Ikem Okeke though (there seem to be two separate people called Edward Okeke findable via Google as well as this person). -- JimR 06:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)- The purported "web reference" is nothing of the sort. Please read to the bottom of the page. Uncle G 07:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment I'd still like to see a bit of caution on deleting a page about a (possible) African figure, said to have died before WWW was widespread, on the grounds that he doesn't have Google references. At least the suggestion of vanity seems unlikely to me. -- JimR 06:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, because this comment I'm typing right here says so. You'll be able to find it on google soon enough. Flyboy Will 09:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- LOL
- Delete. Unreferenced and so far unverified. Probably vanity or possibly a hoax. But there seems to be other Okekes of interest. Somebody should write an article on the "popular Prophet Eddy Nawgu (Edwin Okeke) in Onitsha", whom I stumbled over while googling (see [2]). Tupsharru 10:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia sourcing Wikipedia! There's a new one... FCYTravis 11:16, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletions. -- Humansdorpie 21:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability; suggest that identical content at Okeke is also deleted. Humansdorpie 22:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Burden of proof falls on those who want to delete. You got to do better than an english-language google search before saying this guy doesn't exist or is "insignificant". Anyone here a specialist on Africa that can shed light? --MateoP 07:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - The burden of proof is on the article's writer to provide verifiable sources supporting his or her addition. If none can be found, articles which are unverifiable may be deleted by consensus. As there are no verifiable sources around for this article, deletion is perfectly acceptable. <cliche>In the wake of Seigenthaler</cliche> we're really cracking down on verifiability. FCYTravis 09:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - there are thousands of stubs on Wikipedia, hardly any include sources. People write stubs to get rid of read links, and they don't very often do any research into writing a couple of sentences. Are you in favor of deleting all non-sourced stubs? At least be consistent, if that's you're position. I think the burden of proof needs to fall on deletion. Do actual research beyond google search to see about this guy. You're assuming he either doesn't exist or isn't important. If he was a politician and trade union leader of Nigeria then he is certainly important enough to be included. --MateoP 18:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - I agree. Okeke does not appear in the Africa Centre database of 11,000 prominent African people, and does not appear in the 1994 African Biographical Dictionary (Brockman, Norbert C. An African Biographical Dictionary; (Denver, CO: ABC-CLIO, 1994)). Humansdorpie 15:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - Only 11,000 African people are allowed on Wikipedia? Since when? Is this true of other places too? Only 11,000 Canadians, and 11,000 Japanese people? --MateoP 18:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - The burden of proof is on the article's writer to provide verifiable sources supporting his or her addition. If none can be found, articles which are unverifiable may be deleted by consensus. As there are no verifiable sources around for this article, deletion is perfectly acceptable. <cliche>In the wake of Seigenthaler</cliche> we're really cracking down on verifiability. FCYTravis 09:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Mr. Okeke is also not listed in the Historical Dictionary of Nigeria. —Sesel 18:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep per MateoP. --Hansnesse 08:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)- Comment - A further search of the contributions made by 68.49.232.178, the creating author, reveals Okeke with the same infomation, and more interestingly, an old edit] of the Nnewi page (a city) in which the same author indicates E.I. Okeke is was (i) former deputy president of the People's Redemption Party (a minor polical party with one seat) and (ii) on the board of directors of the University of Sokoto. Further investigation of the University of Sokoto reveals it is appearently not a legitmate university (see University of Nigeria, to which it is affiliated: Special seminar with the Prince of Nigeria on how to transfer $30 Million to the US or any other country without any traces. (from bottom of page)). It is possible that the post was in error, and the real E.I. Okeke was affiliated with something real, but it is looking less likely. Changing my recommedation to delete. --Hansnesse 19:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment While http://universityofnigeria.com/ is certainly a spoof website, this does not mean that the University of Sokoto is not legitimate. For confirmation that this university did exist, and continues to do so under the new name Usmanu Danfodiyo University which it took on in 1988, see [3] under Usmanu. -- JimR 04:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I stand corrected. --Hansnesse 07:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment While http://universityofnigeria.com/ is certainly a spoof website, this does not mean that the University of Sokoto is not legitimate. For confirmation that this university did exist, and continues to do so under the new name Usmanu Danfodiyo University which it took on in 1988, see [3] under Usmanu. -- JimR 04:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - A further search of the contributions made by 68.49.232.178, the creating author, reveals Okeke with the same infomation, and more interestingly, an old edit] of the Nnewi page (a city) in which the same author indicates E.I. Okeke is was (i) former deputy president of the People's Redemption Party (a minor polical party with one seat) and (ii) on the board of directors of the University of Sokoto. Further investigation of the University of Sokoto reveals it is appearently not a legitmate university (see University of Nigeria, to which it is affiliated: Special seminar with the Prince of Nigeria on how to transfer $30 Million to the US or any other country without any traces. (from bottom of page)). It is possible that the post was in error, and the real E.I. Okeke was affiliated with something real, but it is looking less likely. Changing my recommedation to delete. --Hansnesse 19:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - not verifiable notability. Renata3 15:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.