Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian and Tyson Tomko
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was No consensus. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 05:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Christian and Tyson Tomko
Wikipedia isn't a guide to every tag team ever. These two have teamed/been a duo in WWE for a bit, and now in TNA. There isn't a ton of notable information about their pairings. The relevant and notable information (the little there is) can be explained in their wrestler articles. This is a good example of what I'm now calling "tag team cruft". RobJ1981 05:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom --- Paulley
- Delete another example of, should be in their profiles. So in essence this is duplication. Thats why I say delete. Govvy 18:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral. This team lasted for over a year and a half in WWE. However, they didn't really do a whole lot as a team. I'm torn on this one.Mshake3 01:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom -- THLR 23:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, not necessary for their own page, can be put into other articles. Booshakla 02:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, this team is still in wrestling, but now in TNA, if deleted you will be deleting a TNA Tag Team. 86.20.53.195 19:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - each wrestler already has his own article and the partnership can be noted there. Otto4711 21:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a notable tag team that's been around for awhile, provided some good momentsm and wrestled together as a clearly allied unit in both WWE and TNA, and you're justifying its deletion by saying "Wikipedia is not a guide to every tag team ever". By this token, Rated-RKO (which despite actually winning tag team gold and having its own name has only been around about TWO MONTHS) should also be deleted.
- Rated-RKO is now nominated for deletion, thanks for bringing that to our attention. Otto4711
- And it is probably going to be kept. Winning a title is equal to notability acording to the concensus established by countless wresting afds in the past. This case is dissimilar to Rated-RKO, as this team hasn't won any gold yet. -- THLR 06:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed that this is dissimilar to Rated-RKO, who have their own name and tag team gold. However, the mere fact that Christian Cage and Tyson Tomko have been unified like this for an entire year in one promotion, and then brought back together in another, provides almost (if not exactly) as much notability. Unless they break up before doing absolutely anything of noteworth, Christian and Tomko should not be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.149.224.143 (talk • contribs).
- And it is probably going to be kept. Winning a title is equal to notability acording to the concensus established by countless wresting afds in the past. This case is dissimilar to Rated-RKO, as this team hasn't won any gold yet. -- THLR 06:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Weak Delete Their run on WWE was never really as a formal tag team like Edge and Christian or even like the Rock 'n' Sock Connection. Tyson Tomko was Christian's heel bodyguard, not his equal as a tag team partner. Kinda weak under WP:NOTE. --Eqdoktor 13:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: This tag team ended when Christian got drafted to SmackDown! last year. It wasn't by choice, only by circumstance. Shortly thereafter, Christian did not resign with the WWE so he could go work for TNA Wrestling as "Christian Cage". He pushed to get Tyson Tomko into TNA, and currently, hes there as "Tomko". Who knows what Tomko's role will be? We have seen TNA put tag team titles on a lot of makeshift teams, so what if TNA decides to put their Tag titles on this duo? Then this article will have been deleted for nothing. I'd say give it a couple of months, and see where things are headed with this team. If Tomko doesn't really do anything but be a bodyguard and beat people up for Cage, then delete it. --James Maxx 14:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Tomko and Christian, through their time in WWE, have established some kind of depth in character as a unit beyond just "wrestler and bodyguard". And already in TNA, there seems to be some indication of this, with Tomko "knowing something about Abyss's past". The minute Tomko starts to speak or team up with Christian regularly, this keep will be completely solid. 63.215.29.185 21:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - This is to everyone who doesn't have an account. Just to make you all aware, if you don't have an account, your votes aren't counted. -- THLR 23:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. They are now a Tag Team in TNA. Davnel03 21:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete not an actual team, Tomko is more of a bodyguard. --James Duggan 02:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.