Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christ.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy keep per nom's withdrawal, addition of sources, and no delete votes.. --Hetar 19:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christ.

Weak DeleteKeep non notable minor artist. Notability is not established in the article. There are no citations to prove notability. article updated Strothra 20:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - the above is the nomination, not a response. The article asserts notability, but I am not in a position to evaluate it for this topic. 20:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GRBerry (talk • contribs).

• Keep Assuming the information in the article is true, he's notable enough. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment Assuming? You're voting on whether or not the article establishes notability. You just implied that the article does not but you're going to go ahead and assume that what it says is true eventhough there is no verifiability in the article. Please see WP:VERIFY.--Strothra 23:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - Needs cited but not verified is not the same as not verifiable. Several releases on a notable independent label in the field (it is noted that the 2nd full-length is forthcoming, however) and he's an ex-member of another notable act Boards Of Canada. I'll give this a spruce up later today. Ac@osr 07:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - article now reworked. I would add that there is an entry for him at AMG, although there is very little information there. Ac@osr 12:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep- this is an artist of international reputation, with several highly acclaimed releases, a john peel session, and concerts worldwide. All of the information on the page is entirely verifiable by searching the web.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.104.104.244 (talk • contribs).

Comment Please note that if you do not sign out then your vote will, most likely, not count.--Strothra 16:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• further comment i don't know what you mean by that.. you have my ip . i don't really have a computer nickname. i'd additionally like to point out that this artist meets at least three of you criteria on musicians. international tour(japan)(uk)(europe). link to other band of note (boards of canada). dedicated radio broadcast of half an hour or an hour (john peel show).

1) What I meant by that was anonymous users do not usually get credit for votes because they do not have the edit histories to gain the respect of admins. 2) You need to cite this evidence in the article. If you did that you may change my vote if you can PROVE notability. --Strothra 21:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

further comment - ALL of the aspects listed by the unsigned user are now in the article with citation following my clean-up yesterday. The link at the bottom has the touring details and the Peel session, the link to another notable artist is in the BoC US press release that has been linked to at the appropriate paragraph. Ac@osr 11:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment Ah didn't see that. --Strothra 14:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep now establishes notability. GRBerry 16:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (Triple strength) Google returns "about 162,000,000" hits! How is that not notable?!!?!?!? 20:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

oooooo you typed Christ into google a hundred thousand hits. big surprise. Google hits do not make something notable rather the individual sources do. --Strothra 21:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

oooooo you missed the point that stupid names like this are hard to search for. (BTW, I typed "Christ." into google.) I'd delete them all, including .NET Framework, if it was up to me. And I was going to vote delete here but there seems to be enough Keep's already to make the result at best "no consensus". Ewlyahoocom 10:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I had already changed my vote to keep because the article established notability. Google does not establish notability if the article does not. If you type "Christ." into a search engine you get the results of ever sentance that ends with "Christ." that's stored on their server. That's a lot of results, you're not neccesarily getting results which have anything to do with the article - that's just pure common sense and I even just did that same search to prove myself right. You should have actually reviewed the results of your hit rather than the number of returns. --Strothra 11:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Point of information if you type "Christ." into Google (and probably most search engines) you'll get the exact same results as if you type "Christ" in -- it ignores that puncuation (Look! "Christ." just got about +5,000,000 more hits!) Ewlyahoocom 13:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

well that still doesn't invalidate anything i've said about how pointless your google search leading to notability statement was. --Strothra 19:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above. --MaNeMeBasat 10:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.