Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Characters in Super Smash Bros. Melee

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep & Major Clean up.--Andeh 14:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Characters in Super Smash Bros. Melee

  • Delete, the first half of the article is just a list of characters and their symbols, I've added their names to Image:SSBM-SelectScreen.png. The second part is game guide'ish explaining the characters attacks/special powers etc/moves how to do them etc - ". Falco's Up+B and Forward+B attacks aren't as long-ranged as Fox's". Suppose it's also fan-cruft. Not really an enyclopedic article, which is why I've nominated it. Andeh 22:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Good luck dealing with the shitstorm that accompanies all game-related AfDs. Aplomado talk 01:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment And I so do wonder why people vote keep. Hmm, might be because most of the delete voters know nothing about the subject matter? Havok (T/C/c) 13:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep w/ cleanup. Even though Wikipedia is not a game guide, SSBM is one of the best-selling GameCube games and ranks in the top 10 on NP charts even after 4 years. It most likely is a Players' Choice title, too. The guidecruft needs to go, however, and should be made into prose. TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 01:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
    If the game-guide content goes, then it's just a list of characters/symbols and some descriptions of the minor characters.--Andeh 01:57, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete A list of the playable characters on the main SSB:M page should suffice. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 01:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. The SSBM page doesn't actually have a list of playable characters, so that will have to be added in. ColourBurst 03:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment That's what I meant. Move the character list back to the main article. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 03:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I split this page off long ago with the exact intent of getting the cruft off the main SSBM page. Nifboy 03:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Nifboy 03:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge Once you take out the cruft, there's not enough left to justify a separate article. Ace of Sevens 04:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and move the list of the playable characters back into the main article. BryanG(talk) 04:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and Clean-up, maybe make it an article covering both SSBM and SSB so it's something like ""Characters from the Super Smash Bros. series". TJ Spyke 07:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete or smerge to Super Smash Bros. Melee: the only arguably encyclopedic information here is the actual character list, which could usefully be placed in the game article (which currently has more information about characters that didn't appear in the game than characters that did!). The characters themselves, all being be famous Nintendo characters or cameos from other games, should already all have their own articles or be described in the articles from their respective games, so there's absolutely no point having yet another article about them that will just end up being filled with random trivia and redundant information. — Haeleth Talk 10:25, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete: A list of characters being spun off from an article on a popular beat em up is not unreasonable, but this list fails completely, concentrating on trivia such as alternative colour schemes, logos, redundant information ('Mario from the Mario series') and cameos from minor characters.--Nydas 15:30, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and clean-up, as said by TJ Spyke. Rename as "Characters from the Super Smash Bros. series." Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 15:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep and cleanup My reasons? This is a popular game, the characters are important to the game, and I can't forsee any chance of merging it into the main article. AdamBiswanger1 16:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and Cleanup As far as I know, all these characters are already present in other games. The main article needs a list of playable characters and the guidecruft needs to go. This would make it concise enough to go back in the main article. Quendus 16:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment More or less what Haeleth said, actually. Quendus 16:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as nomination --Mecanismo | Talk 16:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Trim down and Merge with Super Smash Brothers Melee. The character list is essential information and belongs on the parent page in the first place. (It's far more important than the hoaxes or the debug menu, IMHO). Zagalejo 17:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Nominator comment, it appears the main reason to keep is that it's a popular game. But does that mean it can have a game guide and other fan-cruft? Is it a ground-breaking or historical game? I agree with the major clean up and merge with Super Smash Bros. Melee, the characters from Super Smash Bros. are in the main article, surely this could be too.--Andeh 17:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and clean-up Edgecution 21:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and clean up per above. — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 01:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Truncate and Merge There is an immense amount of information here that does not belong in an encyclopedic article (e.g. the degree of severity of Link's Up+B attack). There is a significant amount written in long-list style when a comma-separated list would do (like the #Characters symbols section). It seems like there is also quite a bit of original research (e.g. Tingle: A merry fairy wannabe character...). When all of this stuff is cut out, the rest should be merged into Super Smash Bros. Melee (as there shouldn't be too much left). -- tariqabjotu 03:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The characters were originally moved out as they were taking up too much space in the SSBM article. I suppose I'll go for merge them back in and remove all the stupid cruft. Hbdragon88 05:23, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Per. above. Havok (T/C/c) 13:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Nominator comment, OK, I'm all for mass clean up.--Andeh 18:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Needs a little cleanup though. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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