Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Market (Texas)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep --james^(talk) 02:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Central Market (Texas)

Not-notable as local chain owned by notable group H.E. Butt Grocery Company#Operations. I have added the photo to the Butt article and all the relevant facts are included there so no merge needed. Delete and Redirect. BlueValour 03:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep - The Central Market article should not be deleted as it is informative to a speciality gourmet grocer. If this article is deleted, we must then also delete Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Wild Oats Markets, Safeway, Kroger, Albertsons, etc. Clipper471 06:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - I understand your desire to protect an article that you have created edited. However, the encyclopaedic parts are in the Butt article so nothing important is being lost. I am sorry, but you cannot compare a small, local subsidary with the other companies that you mention. Size and geographic spread are not remotely comparable. BlueValour 14:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Rebuttal - I did not create this article. However, it is an article worth having on Wikipedia. Central Market is not a small, local subsidiary. The chain is in all four major Texas markets. The geographic area of the chain can be compared to that of the area of New England. Do not discriminate because Texas is a very lage state. It is a separate chain from its parent, H-E-B. Also, other subsidiaries exist in their own articles. By your suggestion to delete Central Market, those subsidiaries should then also be deleted. Further, only few people know Central Market is owned by H-E-B. Dallas-area users, like most others, will type "Central Market" when looking for an encyclopedia entry, not H-E-B. A deleted article will result in an unsuccessful search of it. Clipper471 15:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - Not so; the redirect will take care of people looking for Central Market so there is no need to duplicate information across two articles. If you know of other non-notable subsidiaries by all means submit AfDs for them. BlueValour 16:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Rebuttal - What duplicate information? I see nothing that's duplicated except for the image you added to the H-E-B article. Clipper471 17:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. This is precisely the sort of article people go to Wikipedia to look for. Central Market is a separate organization from the HEB one, even though they are sister companies. Central Market meets the Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations) criterea since a quick news search showed several articles from major newspapers covering it in detail: "Foodies' Calendar JULY 2006" [1] (Fort Worth Star-Telegram, July 26), "Central Market Westgate undergoes expansion to meet growing demand" [2] (Austin Business Journal, January 9, 2006), "Central Market: New concept in food shopping eats its way into Houston market" [3] (Houston Business Journal, March 1, 2002), "Side Dish; Two deepen experience of Central Market staff" (San Antonio Express-News, October 12, 2005), "Houston to get Central Market" (San Antonio Express-News, January 7, 2000), "Central Market selling fun along with groceries" (San Antoniop Express-News, February 4, 1998). Central Market also has their own product line, competing with other pricey products that have their own articles. 64.216.17.50 16:31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

According to a 2000 article in the Houston Business Journal [4]... "The two Central Market stores in Austin have become a tourist attraction of sorts, drawing in more than 1.5 million visitors a year, second only to the state Capitol in terms of Austin tourist attractions." I would have to definitely say this article merits being kept, as this would be considered notable.64.216.17.50 16:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

The Food Network has also profiled the chain in an episode (I think "Best of..." or "Unwrapped"), also proclaiming is notoriety due to the droves of tourists that visit. It's definitely an attraction if it's the second-top visited attraction in the city of Austin. 64.216.17.50 16:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Strong keep due to above Food Network item and passing WP:CORP. I don't want a void about grocery shopping: it's a major foodservice industry. TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 18:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Strong keep clearly notable. Brimba 20:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - The Frommer's travel guide lists it as "very highly recommended." [5] Clipper471 23:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Can people please at least do a quick web search for news before concluding that something is "not notable" (please read this) just because you happen to live on the other side of the Atlantic. Joshuadfranklin 05:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Important - please stop looking for support by messaging other Users talk pages - this breaches WP policy. BlueValour 17:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Important - please explain what you mean; as you know I left a polite question on your talk page, not looking for support but seeking information. Regrettably you took this as some sort of personal attack, which it was not intended to be. I just want to make Wikipedia as useful as possible. --Joshuadfranklin 18:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per TrackerTV and others, I see no problem with providing coverage of grocery chains such as this one. Yamaguchi先生 23:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is definitely the best supermarket that I have ever been to, and I have looked all over the world for one better. It is surely noteworthy enough to have an entry. I was delighted to see that it did and disappointed to see that is would be merged or whatever. khafre78 0:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.