Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centimeter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Redirected to centimetre. No consensus about whether that should exist, but this should not: all other articles on metric units use the European spelling. Content is now at centimetre, can be debated on Talk there if people feel so inclined, but no admin action required anyway. Just zis Guy you know? 08:21, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Centimeter

How notable are centimeters for Wikipedia to have an article on them? Would it be useful? If not, then this should be deleted. StarTrek 15:16, 22 March 2006 (UTC) Comment The article has been reduced to a redirect and then recreated at least 4 times now. It may make the most sense to make it a protected redirect. JoshuaZ 15:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, no redirect. Centimeters are as notable as inches and should have their own article. Science3456 15:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - notable metric unit. James Kendall [talk] 15:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Well, notable I guess in that there are a lot fo them about, but actually there is not much to say over and above the fact that it's 0.01m. The rest is obvious :-) Just zis Guy you know? 16:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Merge to metre. A centimetre is not an "SI unit" as claimed, it is a factor of the SI unit of length, the metre. Just zis Guy you know? 15:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment I've often seen this argued, but it isn't true. The SI system has seven "base units" and a system of prefixes to create further units from them. The base unit of length is the metre. The centi- is one of the standard SI prefixes, just as the milli- and kilo- are. So the centimetre is a perfectly valid SI unit. See [1]. Gwernol 18:13, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, no redirect. Booking563 16:00, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: meter is a redirect to metre. So is centimetre. Kilometre has its own article, though, and Kilometer redirects there. The convention is to use the European spelling in all these - understandably, given that it is the Système International d'Unités. So: if kept, it needs to be moved over the Centimetre redirect. The major factual error has at least now been fixed. Just zis Guy you know? 16:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No, according to policy we should use what the first contributor used. 64.192.107.242 16:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Since this is pretty much a re-creation of the content which was originally at centimetre before it was merged and redirected in June last year (see history), that would be the European spelling. Just zis Guy you know? 19:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and centimetre should redirect there. Gflores ^Talk 16:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge all information then redirect, or keep. Turnstep 17:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or at the very least, merge to metre. Just because some people think units using funny, incompatible conversion factors that change across countries are better doesn't mean articles about other units have to be deleted. JIP | Talk 18:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Friends, what we have here is murkier than it looks. A Long Time Ago there were articles on centimetre and centimeter. Both were redirected to metre; centimetre was the older by a few monoths, but content was usually simila and was merged into metre before redirecting in June 2005 (if not before, if I fish around too much in the history I think I'll lose the wil to live). Both have been sporadically resurrected since, and the content of both is pretty similar. Booking563 (talk • contribs) and 64.192.107.242 (talk • contribs) seem to be working on undoing the redirect this time. Part of what is going on seems to be some kind of low-level campaign to Americanise the spelling (which is odd, since the US mainly uses Imperial measures of distance). Anyway, there are as I see it two available and consistent alternatives here:

1. Redirect to centimetre and resurrect the last non-redirect version of centimetre, which was not markedly different from what is here now
2. Redirect to metre as centimetre currently does and this did until recently.

Either of these works for me. Just zis Guy you know? 19:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I should say: either of these works for me in a way that faffing aroun d with the spelling so we have one article on metric units with American English spelling does not. Just zis Guy you know? 20:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above. TreeFrogz 20:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into metre. It is a fraction of a unit, and centimetre. Wikipedia should use the spelling conventions of places that use metric units for reasons other than buying drugs. youngamerican (talk) 20:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge per above --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 20:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge minuscule content and delete. Everything is (or should be) covered in metre and related articles like 1 E-2 m. Is there really some educational value to saying "One inch is approximately 2.5cm" and not explaining that it is exactly 2.54cm???? Slowmover 21:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge, Delete, Redirect, and Protect per nom, as with all other fractions of Metre. --Mmx1 22:00, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• COMMENT article should sit at centimetre as it's the proper spelling because American spelling doesn't count in this case, since Americans abhor metric. 132.205.46.156 22:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• COMMENT NOTABLE because it is the base unit in the CGS version of metric. (centimetre-gram-second). 132.205.46.156 22:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• RENAME to centimetre and keep 132.205.46.156 22:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and rename to centimetre as most common name. Capitalistroadster 22:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Um, did you read my comment above? Just zis Guy you know? 08:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - Centimeters are important in mathematics... even in American schools. Brun8 23:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. No move to centimetre or redirect to metre. Quintillion 00:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment This is the user's third edit on wikipedia. --Mmx1 04:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and rename to centimetre for consistency with European spellings for other units of measurement. — Kimchi.sg | Talk 00:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to metre. BryanG 02:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and leave at centimeter. Consistancy between the articles on units of measurement doesn't necessarily have to be. FroogolShopping 02:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect and protect the redirect so we don't need to keep dealing with this. If this can't be done, it certainly should not have the US spelling. JoshuaZ 04:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Measurement used by most of the world.Tombride 05:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Are the people who are voting keep aware of the conventions for measurement articles? JoshuaZ 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep for the obvious reasons, this sure is a strange nomination. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

• Sort of strange/ No admin action required, for sure - it should just be returned to how it was, which was a redirect to metre. But it does seem that a lot of people have not read the prior comments. Just zis Guy you know? 08:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.