Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cdfreaks

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Enochlau 01:50, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cdfreaks

vanity / not noteable

• Delete - vanity. 9cds 00:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - if nothing else, the place has its own wikicity just for it. Look no further. CD Freaks Wikicity. As far as I know, that's an automatic keep. (mind you, it only seems to have about 10 articles). Zordrac 02:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
  • The "automatic keep due to wikicity entry" is new to me. HackJandy 03:38, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
  • That is not a Wikicity. That's just a MediaWiki wiki that they set up themselves. Absolutely anyone can set up a MediaWiki wiki: it means absolutely nothing, and certainly does not make this an automatic keep. — Haeleth Talk 12:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The site appears to be well-established and well-trafficked. Its Alexa ranking is 7,342, well within the suggested guidelines at WP:WEB. Joyous | Talk 02:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The Wikicity and Alexa rank together seem sufficient. Superm401 | Talk 04:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Note that Zordrac is mistaken - there is no Wikicity. Your argument falls back on the Alexa ranking alone. — Haeleth Talk 12:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. per nom. (Notorious4life 05:25, 28 November 2005 (UTC))
• keep, obvious by alexa 7k. ∴ here…♠ 07:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep has sufficient traffic. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Google for link -site gets only about 650 hits, which is small for a supposedly notable site. Alexa ranking is up and down around the magic 10,000, and Wikipedia seems to be a major source of inbound traffic (mainly from DVD, where there is this link: How to identify the real manufacturer of your recordable DVD by DVD Identifier) - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 13:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

• I'm not a huge fan of inclusion in cases like this, but.. if we use traffic as a guideline, this site passes with flying colors. The forum alone has 1mil posts, 100k threads and 10k users. 2 year alexa graph shows fairly reliable traffic over the long haul with 3 month averages easily above 10k. That link at DVD sounds like spam and should be removed. Keep, even if horribly boring and commercial. ∴ here…♠ 22:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

• Delete: I have to agree with Zat Guy that the site's main business is one-off usage (like, for example, the top listed site for temperature conversions from C to F would be), rather than its main business of freaking out over compact disks. I should also point out that the article is mistitled. Further, the article is now written like advertising, so clean-up is a must if it's kept (which I suspect it will be). Geogre 15:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. No valid reason for deletion given, plus, see above. Trollderella 21:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. nn & vanity. hydnjo talk 22:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. From WP:GD: "* Non-notable, nn or vanity mean that the user thinks the subject fails to meet Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines either due to its obscurity or lack of differentiation from others of its type." hydnjo talk 22:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
  • , Importance is proposed policy, vanity a guideline. Neither are part of deletion policy. Trollderella 23:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

• keep please it has a really good alexa rating so erasing this does not make any sense at all Yuckfoo 01:03, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, passes the inclusion criteria of the WP:WEB guidelines with flying colors. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:02, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Unless the lack of credible sources is remedied, this appears to violate Wikipedia:Verifiability

--redstucco 11:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep This site has very detailed information for a very specific subject area. It is well known for what it does. SchmuckyTheCat 00:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Removing the link from DVD appears to have caused a not insignificant drop in Alexa traffic rank. What do we do about sites which are included partly because of traffic generated by their inclusion? - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 09:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Comment Delete them? Seems like the site took about a 2k hit on alexa ranking, daily down to 9k+. Hard to say if this was primarily due to DVD link removal. Good question though, perhaps take it up at WP:WEB. I'm going to stick on keep here based on the forum stats in addition to the traffic stats. (1mil posts, 100k threads, 10k users.) I think this is a good example of a page which may be borderline improperly included based on WP:WEB, but I'll go keep on borderline. ∴ here…♠ 18:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Borderline keep, since it does currently seem to meet the proposal at WP:WEB. Cleanup is needed, though; if it doesn't get cleaned up, and its Alexa rank continues to fall, bring it back and we can reconsider. — Haeleth Talk 12:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.