Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carl R. Hansen
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. --Ezeu 11:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Carl R. Hansen
I have nothing against this brave man but I believe that being on the Cook County Board of Commissioners falls quite short of WP:BIO's requirement of "Political figures holding international, national or statewide/provincewide office". In fact, there are articles for every other member of the board, many of which are similarly un-notable in my book. I just want to see what others think before I submit the rest. (Of course I won't if there is a consensus to keep this one) Pascal.Tesson 18:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as hopeless minorpoliticiancruft and for being thoroughly non-notable as per WP:BIO. Eddie.willers 19:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Richard Daley he is not. Eluchil404 19:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment- I really don't have a strong opinion on this one, but I do want to point out a few things about Cook County (the county into which Chicago falls). The county has 5.4 million people, which makes it more populous than 30 of the 50 states, it also has the 19th largest government (of any kind) in the country. The Cook County board controls a budget of $2.7 billion, and has the power to levy all sorts of taxes (which they do frequently). I could go on, but my point is that Cook County board members are arguably more influential (and notable) than the vast majority of state legislators; and there does seem to be consensus that state legislators are notable enough to merit an article. --Wine Guy Talk 07:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - local (city/county/muncipality/shire/parish/whatnot) politicians are in general not notable. However, when the locality is sufficiently significant (e.g. has lots of people), I would say they are notable. In this case, I would say members of a 17-member county board governing a 5.4 million person county are notable. (Whereas, the board members of a county with 50,000 would probably not be notable.) --SJK 09:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment points well taken. As I have said, I will be more than happy to accept any consensus that emerges in this debate. The counter-point I would offer to the above is that the responsibilities of a county board (even one of such considerable size) are not the same as those of small-state legislatures because the latter have legislative power. Pascal.Tesson 16:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Clearly some local Chicago politicians are notable, hence my comment above. The question though is Mr. Hansen specifically and county supervisors more generally. I say delete until and unless reliable sources such as new coverage can be adduced to show that he is notable in the community. Eluchil404 19:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete (Ex-)Board president John Stroger is notable, Mr. Hansen is not --Thanatosil 18:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC) (Cook County resident)
- Weak Keep, per my comment above. Also, as a home rule government, the board members do have significant legislative power over the 5+ million people of the county. Given the reasoning behind confering inherant notablity to state legislators in WP:BIO, I lean slightly in favor of giving a similar level of notability to Mr. Hanson and his colleagues on this particular governing body. --Wine Guy Talk 18:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - too far down the food chain - an administrator in charge of a district of a county?
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