Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buffyverse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (ESkog)^(Talk) 15:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buffyverse

Too redundant, the canon info should be on the Canon page, and the very basic background should be duplicated on the Buffy and Angel pages - the topics discussed have much more detailed pages of their own already. -- Lesqual 13:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep the Buffyverse and cannon pages are separate articles with separate purposes. No proper reason for deletion has been given. Gwernol 13:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Half of the article is discussing issues with the canon, what to include, what not to include. The other half is dealing with very basic background plot facts, which are duplicated by necessity on the Buffy page. Smerge the top two sections into canon where they belong + the choice is to either wipe out the Supernatural section or expand it. I favor the former option, because it's already duplicated in the series pages + detailed pages listed at the bottom.-- [[User: Lesqual|Lesqual]] 14:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep, not convinced it's a speedy candidate. Obviously thought of independent of the two, and is a viable search term. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep - I'm not quite sure on what grounds this has been nominated for deletion? Do people even look at Wikipedia:Deletion policy anymore? Yes the information on Buffyverse canon is summarised in the article Buffyverse. There is some overlap of information all over wikipeda, but we don't just say that makes information here and there redundant and start deleting it.

The articles Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel are about two TV series. This article, Buffyverse, is about a fictional universe which includes dozens of novels, hundreds of comics, as well as TV series, and potentially other films in the future. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the TV series are only a part of the Buffyverse. Therefore if anything the articles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel are actually subpages to this page, Buffyverse.

Furthermore Lesqual has failed to mention the whole section on terminology. How are people who know little about the Buffyverse to know what the difference between 'Buffyverse' and 'Whedonverse' is for example; Including information on terminology revolving around this issue would really be inappropiate in any other article.

Finally I'd like to point out the Buffyverse has it's own wikiproject: Wikipedia:WikiProject Buffyverse (there are over 50 members), and its own category. How can we have a wikiproject on a topic and delete the main topic of which that wikiproject revoles? IMO this is clearly an article that is needed. I'd agree with Lesqual that at present this article is not up to the standard it should be: for example he mentions that the Supernatural section does not have enough detail. But the whole point of Wikipedia is to gradually improve articles. -- Paxomen 16:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. The article could use some clean-up but the basic principle is sound. See Star Wars for example. Eluchil404 16:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Notable and major sub-genre of TV fantasy. As Paxomen correctly states, the individual TV series articles are in fact sub-articles of this, just as the various Star Trek TV series articles are sub-articles of the main Star Trek franchise article. 23skidoo 16:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Just because many topics covered here have other pages doesn't mean the overview is inappropriate. --Jwwalker 17:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• keep as per all the keeps above. Article could do with a lot of work though. Artw 19:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

In fact I've tagged it with Rewrite. It really is that horrible. Artw 20:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• Strong keep, canon of a well-known television series, its spinoff and multiple novels. User:Zoe|^(talk) 22:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep and rewrite per Artw. Danny Lilithborne 23:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep and the above. - Majin Gojira 05:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep I didn't even like the show that much and I think it deserves this page. --mboverload@ 01:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Damn straight it deserves its own page, just thought that the canon sections would be more appropriate in the canon page, and the other info in a less-redundant fashion - for the benefit of the TV series articles has to be repeated. I didn't recognise that there was ingrained hierarchy involved, other than the template. If SOP is to simply improve + wikify the main page, then consider this Withdrawn.Lesqual 05:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.