Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brawl in Hockeytown

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus, so keep. --Ezeu 08:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brawl in Hockeytown

There have been plenty of brawls in NHL history. I don't think each one needs a separate article. Also, can this really ever be NPOV? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lewi9486 (talk • contribs).

Keep. Although heavily biased, this is more or less how the fight played out, with Lemieux and Roy sustaining heavier injuries than their counterparts. This fight is quite notable in the context of the Wings-Avalanche rivalry. I would favor a merge if a rivalry page was created. Isopropyl 06:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and Cleanup per Isopropyl. --Arnzy (Talk) 14:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

"Keep". This fight was a major pivotal point in hockey in the 90's. While fights happen alot, this was an all out battle royale, and shifted the power paradigm from Denver to Detroit.

Strong Delete. In a list of the top 20 pivotal moments in hockey in the '90s, this is nowhere near the list. Such a determination of the notability of this fight is inherently POV and subjective. If anything, the info here should be merged into the articles on the respective players or teams. Otherwise, leave this stuff for one of Don Cherry's videos. Fluit 17:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep and Cleanup..... Is "Brawl in Hockeytown" really an appropriate name for the article, though? Is this really the term that Hockey fans universally refer to this incident as? (Sorry, but what I don't know about sports, you can almost fit into the Hollywood Bowl.) wikipediatrix 17:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Is it an appropriate name? No. Not even a bit. I'm voting delete (see below), but if this article survives, it certainly has to be renamed. -- Kicking222 17:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Agreed. Isopropyl 20:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Very strong delete Sure, it was a fight between two important teams, but it was just a fight. Unless someone got seriously hurt or suspended for a particularly long time, it's impossible to claim that any fight was a pivotal point in a hockey season. In addition, this article could never be POV. And adding in that the Wings won the Stanley Cup every season in which the teams fought is just pointless. -- Kicking222 17:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom and Kicking222. If anything, this bit of trivia can be merged to 1996-97 NHL season. --P199 19:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Rename. Even though this is just one in a long history of brawls in the NHL, and in hockeytown for that matter, an accurate (perhaps even a bit biased) account of what happened should be kept alive. However, I reccomend the title be changed to include the date. I don't see this article being merged successfully into another while maintaining flow, however.--Eyaw Nayr 20:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete, interesting article but I agree that this can be merged per P199. -- ReyBrujo 02:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Keep. I disagree with the deleters. This event was pivital on the development of a competitve advantage the Red Wing's had with Denver, which eventually resulted in the Wing's defeating them in the WCF. Prior to this event, the Red Wings were effectively at the mercy of Denver's advantage in the area of physical play. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.142.130.39 (talk • contribs).

• If it is so important (but really it isn't in the long run), merge info to 1996-97 NHL season - the only logical place where people would look for it. As a NHL follower I can say that this does not warrent its own page. -- P199 02:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete This event is not notable in terms of brawls (was only a line brawl, not a bench-clearing brawl) and it's relevance becomes increasingly limited as time wears on. Also, fails NPOV. Possible merge as per Kicking222 Caulfield14 20:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: The article's purpose is to record and document a significant historical event between two NHL teams, more than just a ubiquitous hockey fight. Greater in extent than even the Pacers-Pistons Brawl because of its immediate and long-term repercussions, this fight marked the turn of the Detroit Red Wings into what they became many years afterward (and some could argue even today): championship worthy. Downgrading this event from its own page onto 1996-97 NHL season, because of passing years or for any other reason, might stand to lose some of its historical importance within the scope of the Red Wings, the NHL and sports as a whole. Keep the article with cleanup where perceived bias exists without changing the facts, if so compelled. However, there should be no name change, as few people, especially from Detroit, would call this event by any other name than "Brawl in Hockeytown"; its been known by that name for almost ten years. Rothesay 15:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Delete as non-notable. Runcorn 15:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.