Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blackened Death Metal

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Paul August ☎ 15:59, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blackened Death Metal

Another imaginary music genre. As usual, none of the bands listed here are described using this term on their own pages, and nothing links here. —Wahoofive (talk) 05:21, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, along with every other ridiculous metal genre which is completely identical to about ten other metal genres. Considering that black metal and death metal have very little differences as it is, this genre is pretty much redundent. Cyclone49 09:37, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Neologism. android79 12:16, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete -- sounds like a joke actually. Haikupoet 03:32, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -- The responses (and post) above prove that those wanting this article deleted know absolutely nothing about death metal or heavy metal in general. ("Ridiculous metal genre"? "black metal and death metal have very little differences"? Perhaps you guys should read the articles vs. basing this on POV.)Danteferno 07:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I did read the relevant articles. From Death metal: Death metal has, like most subgenres of heavy metal, proven notoriously difficult to define. Some fans and musicians have a firm concept of the genre, its categories and subcategories. From Black metal: Some black metal fans, musicians and critics use a strict definition of the genre, though others view this as limiting and view black metal more as an artistic movement than a sub-category of popular music. Seems to me that, if there's no clear idea of what either death or black metal are, there can't possibly be any sort of meaningful definition for the combination of the two. Also, none of the wikilinked band articles indicate that any of the bands classify themselves as "blackened death metal" bands. android79 17:09, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

If you read further into the death metal article (obviously, you didn't) you would notice the genre has subgenres, including blackened death metal. As for bands not "identifying themselves as blackened death metal on their websites", how about bands that don't identify themselves as nu-metal on their websites? After all, Nu-metal is a Wikipedia article (and an unofficial genre) so what is the problem? Danteferno 18:10, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Who said anything about websites? I'm talking about the individual articles for the several bands that are listed in Blackened Death Metal, none of which mention blackened death metal. android79 00:05, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

The same could be said for bands listed as "nu-metal" on the "List of Nu-metal artist page", eventhough nu-metal isn't mentioned on their biographical Wikipedia page. Where's the VFD/complaints there? Danteferno 00:23, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

What I meant above is that the bands aren't described using this term on their Wikipedia pages, not their websites. This term would have more credibility if it didn't seem to contradict the evidence on other WP pages. —Wahoofive (talk) 04:04, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

And I have clarified the term on some of those band pages. Whatever reasons, there is no good reason the article should be deleted. Google "blackened death metal", do a bit of research. You will be surprised by the results. Danteferno 05:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Metalcruft.  Grue  13:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

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