Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beta Upsilon Chi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beta Upsilon Chi

I can't see one iota of evidence from this long, and well-written, article, that suggests that this fraternity is any more notable than the tens of thousands of others in the USA. Stifle (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment It seems to me that any repectable fraternity might be notable just for being a national fraternity. Of course we then get into a few people starting a fraternity to get on wikipedia? Perhaps some greater consensus is needed here.--Nick Y. 23:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities page. - Alphachimp ^talk 23:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. At the risk of accusations of wikilawyering, I'll go at this one. First off, there aren't tens of thousands of fraternities in the united states. There may be thousands of chapters, but there aren't thousands of national organizations. BUC has 18 chapters, has external references [1] [2] [3]. It's the nation's largest Christian fraternity, which stands apart from the traditional outlook of a brotherhood. I do think that this article needs to be wikified and significantly shortened. I have tagged it as such. Alphachimp ^talk 23:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  Comment. This Atlanta Journal-Constitution article appears to reference the fraternity, but the link is dead. Could someone with Lexis Nexus or another academic search program take a look? Alphachimp ^talk 23:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep because this organization appears to be established at a sufficient number of universities to be notable. However, I would recommend cutting out the lists of founders, board members, and executive directors, which are not really of sufficient significance to be encyclopedic. --Metropolitan90 02:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I made my point on keeping this article on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororitiespage but i wanted to add here that this organazation merits keeping it is a large fraternity and although the page could use some help it needs not be deleted.--Trey 02:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Why would BUC need to be deleted, but all of the countless other Interfraternity Council, National Panhellenic Council, and other fraternity/sorority entries be allowed to stay? It seems, though from an admittedly biased source, that someone simply does not want this article included. If you delete BUC, why not delete SAE, Sigma Chi, etc? As for Wikification, again, if the standard is other fraternity/sorority pages, I think this article clearly meets Policy. In sum: (1) BUC is the largest of (2) a specific niche type of fraternity whose entry (3) is comparable to peer-institutions. Diezba ^talk 02:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• AJC article. The article on the UGA chapter of BUC is online here. Diezba ^talk 02:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• 20 year old organization with 18 chapters is plenty large enough to be notable, in my view. What's needed is verifiable sourcing for the claim that they are that large, and that would be that as far as this AfD nom goes. Keep but please find some sources. If deleted, will userify on request to allow further work to improve verifiability, just ask. ++Lar: t/c 03:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Source in external links is [4] along with external links to the universities at issue.
• Keep -- charitable and notable. WBardwin 03:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. nn college club. -- GWO
• Keep. -- by this definition of college club, every fraternity and sorority in America would be considered such. Diezba 00:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• What about Kappa Upsilon Chi? Diezba 00:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. -- Decent size National Greek Letter Organization.
• keep please this organization is notable and keep the founders in too Yuckfoo 18:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• keepthis argument was already heard when controversy started about Sigma Phi Lambda's wikipedia entry. Please reference this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sigma_Phi_Lambda and note that it was kept. Jczup 18:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)jczup

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.