Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berkley High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 00:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Berkley High School

The article doesn't say why this school is notable, and there is very little information about it. jd || talk || 21:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Fails to assert notability.--Húsönd 21:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I didn't notice the Carnegie Hall invitation, so I changed my stance to Neutral (I could have changed to keep, but I'm reluctant to accept that singing in Carnegie would grant notability to the entire high school rather than to (and solely to) the respective choir).--Húsönd 04:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: No wonder I didn't notice, Carnegie info added afterwards. Good work anyway.--Húsönd 04:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Changed back to delete, Carnegie grants notability to choir, not school.--Húsönd 22:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. I added some references to asset notability. And high schools should generally be kept. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 22:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Large secondary school, ergo notable. -- Necrothesp 00:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Large, notable and well-referenced school. --Carioca 00:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above; also seems to be a precedent for high schools to be on Wikipedia. (Elementary schools I could understand being deleted) AuburnPilot^Talk 01:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Above and beyond the inherent notability of high schools, this article (as improved by my esteemed colleague TruthbringerToronto, with some tweaks from me), makes clear claims of notability, and provides additional information regarding the school and its programs. Alansohn 01:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

*Weak keep The carnegie element is some assertion of notability with some merit if barely. JoshuaZ 02:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC) Changing to weak Delete Many schools get similar opportunities. JoshuaZ 21:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Carnegie Melon visit is not notable but high schools are notable. Note this page is subject to frequent vandalism from bored students.Zudduz 15:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, no assertion of notability. Secondary schools are not inherently notable; Wikipedia is not a directory. —ptk✰fgs 18:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• keep please it is expanded and shows how it is notable erasing makes no sense at all Yuckfoo 01:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep — It meets my personal criteria for notability. — RJH (talk) 19:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or speedy keep and discount the irrelevant commentary by ptkfgs. Wikipedia is not a directory, just as this is not a directory article. Silensor 06:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable large high school. Please stop nominating these. bbx 07:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Could you please show me what in this revision, and possibly the current one, makes this school notable? Please also show me where it says that I am not allowed to nominate secondary school articles for deletion. Thanks. jd || talk || 08:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment. Many people think (justifiably, in my opinion) that all secondary schools are inherently notable. You are perfectly at liberty to nominate them, but endless previous AfDs have shown that this is generally a waste of everyone's time, since they will be kept. But, as long as people continue to nominate them, considerably more people will continue to vote keep. Hopefully eventually the deletionists will realise it's futile and get bored and we can all go back to devoting our time to building an encyclopaedia (that means adding articles, not deleting them!), which is why most of us (I hope) are here in the first place. -- Necrothesp 00:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Improving the encyclopedia means refining and improving articles more often than it means creating new ones. Once we have a stub for every secondary school in the world, what will we have accomplished? We'll have a directory of secondary schools, and the handful of articles on notable schools will have suffered as a result. —ptk✰fgs 00:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete Good medium sized high school, good choir this year. Many schools get invited to go somewhere and do a concert. That is why Band Candy was invented. Not that far above the pack in anything I see in the article. Could use some better verifiable claims to notability. A paragraph in the article on the town would be adequate coverage, with a link to the school's web site.Edison 21:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.