Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben myers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. SushiGeek 13:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben myers

Written by the subject of the article. Was speedied for nn-bio, but there are assertions of notability, so I've redirected it here. None of the assertions appear to be untrue, but none of them are very important in the scheme of things. And the article is a vanity advert for the writer. But nevertheless there may be some merit in it. No vote from me. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 10:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Weak delete His books are listed on Amazon.co.uk, and one of them is in the top 10,000, so must have sold some number. But the article is self-publicising, and makes no attempt to conform to a Wikipedia style. If the author is given time to have it conform to standard presentation and it subsequently attracts other editors, it might have a value, but otherwise it appears to be vanity publishing. Kevin McE 10:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - could be worth keeping, but needs rewriting. —Whouk (talk) 12:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and rewrite. IMHO, neither vanity nor failure to conform to Wikipedia standard formatting do not in of themselves disqualify an article as long as the subject is otherwise encyclopedic and notable. RGTraynor 15:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I think self-authored entries should not get the benefit of the doubt, although RGTraynor's point is well-taken. In this case, the notability asserted is questionable, and amazon sales rankings after a certain level are highly arbitrary, since one or two sales a day can push the rank up by thousands, or tens of thousands. As it stands, this is vanity and should be userfied. Eusebeus 16:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Userfy and point out WP:AUTO (also WP:VAIN and I guess WP:BAI) Just zis Guy you know? 16:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. and cleanup. Otherwise no reason to delete. For great justice. 18:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Userfy, don't see anything here that meets WP:BIO.--Isotope23 19:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Obvious Keep, Amazon site lists reviews from major media (like The Guardian) satisfying notability standards for published authors. Monicasdude 23:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The article needs to be cleaned up. Seano1 02:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and clean up. Satisfies notability standards. Metamagician3000 08:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.