Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bedford Village

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. FCYTravis 23:52, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bedford Village

• Finally, someone who actually supports the idea that google doesn't know everything.Besides, it isn't in google, because it was bought by Archstone Fairfax, as per the link in the page .Numba1xclusive 15:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• You're all being sad bastards again: If it isn't in google, it doesn't belong here, so vote for deletion. When are you sad gits going to learn that there is a large (even mildly interesting) world outside google. 15:56, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• Besides, even if this article is rejected, are we going to let Wikipedia become what the ivory tower elitists want it to become? This was meant to be an open forum where anybody could add a little bit to the massive encyclopedia that was Wikipedia. If we're going to delineate what is right, and what isnt,without any clear indication, we're reverting back to exactly what we didn't want to become. Numba1xclusive 03:29, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• My question is, no one here has a warrant to explicitly reject this post. All anybody has said is that its an apartment complex therefore its not significant. However, are you stating that an area of residence and culture is insignificant? Because if you are, thats elitist. Numba1xclusive 03:24, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Numba1xclusive is a brand new account, and the only edits as of now are in this VfD. Serious WP:SOCK suspicions. - Chairboy 03:38, 3 August 2005 (UTC) -- Numba1 is my neighbor and supports the article, I think more than I do lol. Variance 04:54, 2005 August 3 (UTC)

• No, but anom IP's and new user's vote aren't given much weight, due to the possibility of sockpuppetry. See WP:SOCK. --Etacar11 02:52, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Non-notable. It's an apartment complex. Chairboy 03:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. What the guy below said is so true. Chairboy has given no reason why this should be deleted. The only argument here is that "Google" doesn't have it. Chairboy has made this entire process entirely undemocratic, because of the way he is treating the other votes.Numba1xclusive 03:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Your definition of notable is ambiguous and arbitrary. There is no bright line for notable, written anywhere. What I see happening here is people using Google as a method to justify. Besides that, no one else has any negative reason why this should be rejected. Unfortunately, it was in the belief that Wikipedia was an open encyclopedia that this entry was added. By rejecting this entry, you are enforcing a normative mindset, which will lead to impacts such as the destruction or political mindsets, resulting in no way for others to dissent. 12.65.42.195 01:47, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Vote by an anonymous IP user, VfD reform suggests those should be disregarded for obvious reasons. - Chairboy 02:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Here in Northern Virginia, it's actually quite of reknown and still referred to as Bedford. -- 68.230.181.7 03:44, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Vote by an anonymous IP user, VfD reform suggests those should be disregarded for obvious reasons. - Chairboy 02:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Apartment complexes aren't notable. humblefool®^{Deletion Reform} 03:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete As above Manik Raina 04:33, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Given the early colonists unoriginality in picking names, I wouldn't be too surprised if there are hundreds of places called 'Bedford Village' in the US and Canada. I doubt this apartment complex is the most notable of these. Google gives Old Bedford Village in Pennsylvania the top spot. Average Earthman 10:41, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I struck out the keep that Variance added. To me this hardly sounds like a keep vote, but Average Earthman might want to clarify. --Etacar11 01:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• It may be an apartment complex but if a large number of people live there and it has its own culture, might it not be like a small village? No vote yet. DoubleBlue (Talk) 18:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Still undecided but flooding the page with anons and sockpuppets will do you no good with anyone. It'd be far better time spent on improving the article with sources, wikilinks, and categories. DoubleBlue (Talk) 04:28, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Delete without verifiable information about the place. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable, as above. — Linnwood ^(talk) 22:53, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete reads like an ad. Is there such a thing as apt. complex vanity? Definitely nn. --Etacar11 23:38, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep It is like a small village. Still referred to as Bedford, even though it hasn't been the official name for five years. If you mention Bedford around here, people will know what you're speaking of. In the early 90s it was known for a large immigrant population along with Woodburn, another area nearby. Variance 01:52, 2005 August 3 (UTC)
• Keep It's a form of culture which is siginificant enough68.100.7.66 02:10, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Vote by an anonymous IP user, VfD reform suggests those should be disregarded for obvious reasons. - Chairboy 02:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep you know why (Unsigned vote by 70.17.110.72 (talk • contribs))

Vote by an anonymous IP user, VfD reform suggests those should be disregarded for obvious reasons. - Chairboy 02:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. What is encylopedic about an apartment complex? Is is a fixed dollar amount? Or the number of doctors that live there? What about the number of lawyers? Vegaswikian 05:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Do you ask the same of towns? DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - one of the millions of apartment blocks, significant only to people who live there. Presumable at least some of the sock- or meatpuppets originate from that block - Skysmith 08:17, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• No one is giving any concrete reason why this entry is bad. After 3 posts requesting someone for a purely warranted claim, no one gives it. Vegaswikian, you are embracing a ivory tower mindset, and its empirically proven in ur claim. And Skysmith, you are blabbing for the sake of it. Someone give 1 good concrete reason why this should be rejected. And by the way Chairboy, just because i signed up recently doesn't mean i'm incompetent to vote. You're de-democratizing this entire procedure, by effectively taking out any vote that has warrants. Numba1xclusive 15:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Howdy, de-democratizing would be more along the lines of deleting votes. Please review WP:SOCK to see why your new account is being given special attention in this VfD. It's nothing personal, just added information to make the process of coming to consensus easier. Also, nobody is suggesting that the article is 'bad' in a perjorative sense, just that the subject is not notable enough for inclusion. Please note that while there are hundreds of thousands of apartment complexes in the USA, few of them merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. I look forward to seeing you contribute to other articles, you have an obvious passion about this subject that could be used to better other things as well. Welcome to Wikipedia! - Chairboy 16:02, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Isn't that what you're doing basically, by disregarding votes, you're de-democratizing. And note, there is absolutely no brightline for notable, written anywhere. Wikipedia is an open source Encyclopedia, and by arbritrarily setting a limit for notable, leaves out an infinite number of articles that could have possible noteworthy aspects. Numba1xclusive 16:05, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Just to be clear, It won't be Chairboy or any of us who have voted here who decides the result of the debate. It will be a neutral third-party administrator. However, there is precedence that such clear sockpuppetry and anon votes are discounted heavily in the decision. DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:14, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • You say "de-democratizing" like it's a bad thing. Chuck 19:06, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

(to Numba1Exclusive) Hello, nothing I'm doing is 'disregarding votes', as I am not an admin that will be reviewing this article for consensus (as DB notes above). As of this date, there is a single Keep vote from an active wikipedia with edits in other articles (Variance), and the rest are from anonymous IPs and you, a new account that appears to have been created exclusively for this VfD (based on edit history). Please acknowledge that you have read an understand WP:SOCK, I think it will answer many of your concerns about the notation process being used. That aside, I look forward to seeing your contributions in other articles. - Chairboy 16:16, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Clean - A notable local landmark with a history deserves an entry, but as it stands I do not feel edified for having read that article. If it is not redeemed, delete. Eldereft 19:18, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless someone can produce a specific (preferably verifiable) claim of notability. --Mairi 21:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
• No one has clearly given a definition of notable. Numba1xclusive 22:23, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

With respect, this is not the correct place to educate you on WP policy. Please review the help first for answers to your questions whenever possible. In regards to this last question, please see this. I hope it will clear things up. You still have not edited anything other then this VfD, I continue to look forward to your future contributions in other subjects. - Chairboy 22:50, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep It's doing any harm (except for being in the wrong stub-cat). Google is not the beginning and end of everything. Megapixie 01:21, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is an apartment complex, not a public institution. Sections of towns and cities may deserve their separate articles, but apartment complexes are in general no more notable than average hotels. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn apartment complex. JamesBurns 03:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete; whatever is happening in Bedford Village that is interesting is a part of what is happening in the rest of the town/suburb. Salvagable information should be merged into the Falls Church, Virginia, but there doesn't seem to be much that would survive NPOV editing. Sdedeo 01:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

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