Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayesha Sana

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 23:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ayesha Sana

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Non-notable person, does not meet WP:BIO, article is unwikified, unsourced, unreferenced, a two line blurb about .. someone. Shrieking Harpy...... ^Talk|Count 01:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per failing WP:BIO it appears and also advise the author of the article to take a look at conflicts of interest (the author claimed Sana as a relative in some of the first edits to the article. Metros232 01:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep now that some notability has been established. The AfDed state of this article was almost empty and devoid of content but this is much improved. Metros232 19:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes the key thing to learn from WP:COI is that if you want to make an article about a famous relative, you should never mention the fact. Kappa 03:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - If you read the interviews linked in the article, this person does not seem at all non-notable and probably does not fail WP:BIO. Although I understand there is probably a conflict of interest, the actress is notable and the article should be kept. BhaiSaab ^talk 01:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete breaks WP:BIO. Had a look at google India. No where to be seen. scope_creep 01:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Perhaps that's because she's Pakistani, not Indian. Regardless, I found some results on Google India. BhaiSaab ^talk 01:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep passes WP:BIO. Maybe Scope should try googling the country she comes from. Kappa 01:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per the world perspective of Wikipedia, she seems notable. It not matter which country the media/search engine is from. Needs sources, but is already tagged. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 04:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Although I'm a deletionist, I'll have to say tentative keep. While the article doesn't give the impression of a notable person, several websites I've found via Google show that she is as notable as the average actress who has been in several films. I'll give it a go at cleanup, sourcing, and expansion soon, and if that doesn't work out, I'll switch to supporting deletion. Picaroon9288 06:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  See below. Picaroon9288 19:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep from the above arguments. I removed most of the tags because they were excessive (ie, we don't need wikify and cleanup tags for a one-line stub). --Wafulz 06:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep I also am a deletionist, and put a db-bio on this article at the start, I then found enough to change my mind and remove the tag hoping the article would get better. But it still really needs to be filled out. I'd like to see this Afd end undecided, so that if someone comes along later and the article has not improved it can get speedy deleted wihout issues. --ArmadilloFromHell 06:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. The main article is a rediculous 21 words long. If it were expanded and wiki-ized, I could see myself voting 'keep'. Spinach Dip 10:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I believe Picaroon has that covered already. Also, being short is not a reason for deletion. --Wafulz 12:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, meets WP:BIO criteria, though an urgent expansion on the article is needed. Seems notable with the amount of Google hits I get. --Terence Ong _{(C | R)} 12:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Ageo020 (Talk • Contribs) 17:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  Question what does Ayesha Sana have to do with India? Picaroon9288 19:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions. -- Kappa 18:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)"
• Okay, I've done some cleanup and expansion. Keepable now. Picaroon9288 19:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, seems notable enough. Lankiveil 00:56, 11 November 2006 (UTC).
• Keep seems notable, and there might not be a whole lot on her in English. I mean, we have an article on Eric Roberts, for goodness sake. But it could use more expanding.Phyesalis 02:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

  Actually, it could've been much longer. But there was a dearth of reliable sources to be found, and I adhere closely to that guideline (Even the ones I did cite aren't as solid-looking as I hoped.) I leave it in the hands of Wikipedians who speak Urdu, because I don't know a single non-proper noun in that language. Picaroon9288 03:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Can you put a call out to Urdu speakers for contributions? Given all the insignificant U.S. actors covered, I think this article contributes to the cultural diversity of WP. Maybe you could add info about Lollywood, give the article more context? Phyesalis 05:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- Just this year Dawn called her "one of (Pakistan's) busiest and most bankable models" [1] (link from article) -- Shunpiker 05:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. She is a moderately known actress in Pakistan though has no super fame. --Marwatt 17:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- notable bio.  Nileena joseph ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 19:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • She's pretty notable, she's the only actress mentioned under 21st Century Cinema on the Cinema of Pakistan page:

    In July 2002, Javed Sheikh's Yeh Dil Aap Ka Huwa [1] (Urdu for This Heart is Yours) starring Moammar Rana and Ayesha Sana, was released and
    had grossed over Rs. 200 million (US $3.4 million) across Pakistan. However, the short period of successes in the industry could not keep the 
    cinemas afloat and the same industry that at one time produced more than a 100 films annually a decade ago now reduced to a merely 32 in the 
    year 2003 with only one partial success called Larki Panjaban (A Punjabi Girl).
    Phyesalis 21:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• Do all of those statements have sources? Picaroon9288 21:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Appears to be a notable actress in Pakistan. --Oakshade 02:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as a notable Pakistani actress who easily meets our WP:BIO criteria. Yamaguchi先生 22:23, 14 November 2006

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.