Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ask those who know (book)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 15:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ask those who know (book)

• Delete The article was created over a year ago (in December 2005) and since then only has three edits of which only the first was for the actual article (other two tags). The article does not establish why the book is notable. Jersey Devil 04:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Non notable book.--陈鼎翔 ^说!贡献 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Nominated in bad faith as part of Jersey Devils long-running crusade against Striver. Book is notable enough to be republished by several publishers. --Irishpunktom\^talk 11:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - non-notable book, probably advert. Not enough content. --Xorox 13:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge google pulls up some citations. Kotepho 14:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

• Changed after the article grew from being longer than a sentence. Kotepho 02:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Amazon sale rank: zero. (And as it is, looking at the web copy, it's wall-to-wall rants.) RGTraynor 16:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per RGTraynor. Fishhead64 21:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, if you ask me -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 22:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per RGT.  RasputinAXP  c 23:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge with Muhammad al-Tijani. The book is highly controversial in the Islamic world (and even here!). The external link is useful. Lambiam^Talk 00:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• If it is highly controversial you should be able to dig up some sources. Even his bio has none. Do we really need one sentence stubs on his articles when the main article is three sentences? Kotepho 00:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(books)#Note_on_notability_criteria states:

Ask yourself if several libraries or bookshops, or a no-subscription website have a copy of the book, so that other wikipedians can easily consult the book, or at least have access to on-line or press-published reviews of the book. Usually, books with an ISBN-number and/or availability in a couple dozen of libraries and/or a Project Gutenberg type website, and with a notability above that of an average cookbook or programmers manual would qualify.

This book has a ISBN AND is "availability in a couple dozen of libraries", AND also being available for full download on several sites. Book is highly controversial among Muslims. Being a short article is not a grounds for deletion. --Striver 01:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone fixes the WP:BAI "Anything which you cannot be bothered to write one complete sentence about." Which if the book is truly controversial should be relatively easy.Bridesmill 01:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Striver 01:50, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete mo listing, anywhere...nn.--MONGO 02:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Seems like a perfectly reasonable book article. -Colin Kimbrell 16:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge with Muhammad al-Tijani. His four books could be written as separate articles or could all fit on his article, but either way, they appear to be notable and verifiable, and worthy of inclusion. --Hyperbole 19:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Looking around, I think it's notable. Georgewilliamherbert 21:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.