Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ari Shaffir

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Luigi30 (Ταλκ το mε) 14:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ari Shaffir

Delete. This seems to be another attempt to get Amazing Racist information in. Note that the Amazing Racist AfD discussion referred to this comedian as non-notable, which nobody contested at the time. This AfD result was endorsed by Deletion Review, so process has already determined this comedian is not notable.

Even if previous process is to be ignored, the subject does not live up to the requirements for living actors under WP:BIO, and fails many proposed tests (Google, professor, 100 years). The small IMDB entry and few Google hits for "Ari Shaffir" back up the previous determination of the subject's non-notability. Vslashg (talk) 20:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, per above. Stifle (talk) 01:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Retain I'm not an expert on the criteria. I just love Wikipedia and depend on it for good info and I came to Wikipedia to get info on this subject and I'm glad it was there. I guess some people are concerned about bloat in Wikipedia? Maybe someone could point me to something that would explain to me that Wikipedia is too large or something so I can understand why a smaller Wikipedia is better than a larger one? I'm not being sarcastic, I consult Wikipedia almost every day to look stuff up. I depend on it for info and the more "complete" it is the more useful it is to me. I suppose there is an alternate philosophy about Wikipedia somewhere? Anharmyenone 02:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:BIO. Non-notable comedian who would like to be famous and controversial, but certainly hasn't achieved it. Fan1967 14:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Retain This comedian is notable, and his videos has been very widely circulated on the internet. Typing his name in a Google search produces over 2,000 results. Being a high school student, I have noticed that his videos are the subject of frequent discussion among many teens. Just because the origin of his popularity is the internet doesn't mean he should be excluded from Wikipedia. --69.232.233.76 21:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: First edit from this IP, and misrepresents Google results -- only 350 or so returned out of 145 unique. [1] Vslashg (talk) 01:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: I follow troll sites and hate sites and the series the Amazing Racist is quite loved by the hate community. I've seen then use it to get more members simply through comedy. Also the hate community assumes it is real. New Jersey Racist and agitator Hal Turner even has talked about these videos as a way to annoy illegal: http://www.halturnershow.com/HowToHarassIllegalAliens.html. Resist.com, a well known racist site, even hosts these videos: http://www.resist.com/RacistVideos/index.htm . If this reasonabley objective information stays on Wikipedia we can go "Hey racists look it was all faked, you can't act like that in public." There is a value in having objective information about the Amazing Racist and the actor. This isn't just hatemongering. Keep - actor notable through popularity in the racist community (while being jewish (that's a feat)). --TrollHistorian 13:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• comment - why even list the professor test? It is like you're just listing out policies which aren't applicable. Also I agree the article needs a POV cleanup. Its defense of the videos is totally POV. Google metrics are bogus are not worth even arguing over, but the original poster misrepresents the results of the google search. Also I don't think referring to the previous process is really fair or accurate. If you read that AfD it is just wikipedia policy quoting, there was no real discussion and it is possible people didn't even know that article existed. So the only people voting might be those who hover around the delete page. Essentially I've shown this person to be reasonably notable and shown many of the metrics used to claim his article should be deleted to be inaccurate, misreprsented or bogus. --TrollHistorian 13:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.