Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antisystem

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash^talk 00:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antisystem

• Keep: per great research! Needs sources documented. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC) Delete: Non-notable band. Article mentions only one possibly-full-length album which doesn't meet WP:BAND guideline of two full-length albums. No mention on Amazon or AllMusic (AllMusic does have an entry for Anti System - two words - but it may be a different band and doesn't say anything anyway). Can't find any sources actually. The only candidate for an official page was a 404 broken link. A search on one of the album names gave only Wikipedia mirrors. —Wknight94 (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

This entry seems to be unverifiable, but please do remember that there's more things mentioned in WP:NMG that could merit inclusion beside 2 full length albums and Amazon and All Music listings. A band with no albums can still be notable for other reasons. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per thorough nom. Dustimagic *\o/* ^{(talk/contribs)} *\o/* 01:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and move to Anti System. The AMG entry in question is [1]. Under the discography tag, one of the albums is Defence of the System, which is mentioned in the article. However, the only other listing there is No Laughing Matter, which is not mentioned in the article but which does appear to be by the same band, see [2]. They did appear to release two albums, A Look at Life and No Laughing Matter. So they have an AMG entry, they have two albums...really, they do meet WP:MUSIC. You get many more relevant results for Anti System in Google if you use the two-word version of their name. Raggaga 12:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep & move to Anti System per Raggaga. I grant this is on the very cusp of notability, but they do have an All Music entry, even if it is just a discography with no bio. And they have done two albums. Let's remove some of those red links, though. StarryEyes 13:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Well, now I'm thorougly confused. With your new info, I found this link which shows their Defence of the Realm EP with five tracks. The article mentions Defence of the Realm with "2 more tracks" and none of the names match. Are we sure we're dealing with the right band here? And what is this link showing? It looks like they gathered the bits and pieces from their scattered catalog and released it as one CD? Doesn't that still mean they've only made enough music to fit on one CD? You've almost got me convinced to keep except now I'm worried about their verifiability with this new conflicting info. Then again, if we have to jump through this many hoops to find anything, how notable can they be?! —Wknight94 (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  • They are not "notable" in the dictionary sense of the word, but they do meet the WP:MUSIC criteria. OK, I think I've got it all sorted out. Here was the original text of the article: "anti system formed in 1981 in 82 there 8 track demo came out they had 2 tracks on Punk Dead - Nah Mate, The Smell is Jus Summink in Yer Underpants Innit 12"(Pax, 1982) then they released defence of the realm ep (pax, 1982) had 2 more tracks on Bollox to the Gonads - Here's the Testicles LP (Pax, 1984) after pax records went under they singed to reconciliation records in 84 85 saw the release of there legendary lp no laughting matter in 86 they released there last best release a look at life(12) anti sytem were not a crust band they were hard core punk." They never said that "Defence of the Realm EP" included songs called "Bollox to the Gonads" and "Here's the Testicles", but that they contributed two songs to the album called Bollox to the Gonads - Here's the Testicles. This link reveals that that album is a compilation. The person who did the clean-up made the understandable mistake, given the original text's sheer incomprehensibility. StarryEyes 16:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, and good job sorting this all out. -Colin Kimbrell 17:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Yeah, fantastic! They still seem too obscure to warrant an article but they do indeed seem to have a chance at meeting WP:MUSIC so I changed my vote as well. If an admin wants to close this one, it's fine by me. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Seems to pass WP:MUSIC. Royboycrashfan 19:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable enough, understandable that a more obscure band from the 80s would have a short first posting. --AlexWCovington (talk) 01:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.