Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Webb

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 13:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andy Webb

Just doesn't seem notable enough? Input from ornithologists welcome, but this person just doesn't strike me as being notable at all. Camillus (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. He is apparently the first person to record a sighting of the mongolus race of the Lesser Sand Plover in Britain. This is a notable accomplishment. --

TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 21:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The Lesser Sand Plover article says its a subspecies - "race" is a weird anthromorphic way of describing the animal which inflates the significance of the difference.... "The Sockeye Salmon is a distinct race from the Pink Salmon". Bwithh 14:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. He is an important ornithological scientist working on seabirds in the North Atlantic region - MPF 22:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep IF sourced. If not, do what happens to unverified articles. Arbusto 02:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:V, WP:BIO. Unsourced, unverified article which even admits that the main claim to fame hasn't been confirmed yet (I'm not sure where the idea that this guy is an "important ornithological scientist" comes from - he's likely just an enthusiastic birder - bird-watching is very popular as an fun amateur hobby in the UK. And even if the sighting claim is confirmed, I don't think the discovery is of encyclopedic note. Its not the discovery of a new species. Its a claim that a non-UK subspecies has been spotted for maybe the first time in the UK - this doesn't make the person claiming this so notable that we need his life story. Single hit from a search for "Andy Webb AND plover" on the Factiva database - a 2001 interview with Andy about the excitement of birdwatching in the local newspaper Aberdeen Press & Journal but which doesn't mention the claimed plover discovery. Bwithh 14:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment came here to reply to two comments made above (which I noticed late last night), but Bwithh has beat me to it. Agree - if he's an "important ornithological scientist" then the article should be able to be expanded to include his accomplishments. (Like, there are tons of archaelogists, but until they discover something of note or publish something notable, they don't deserve an article). As it stands at the moment, the only thing notable is that he spotted the bird mentioned above - perhaps a one-liner in the article for the bird mentioning Mr. Webb? I tend to to think that the bird might be notable for venturing out of it's normal area, not the guy who spotted it - and the governing body itself doesn't seem to have verified the claim, anyway. Google doesn't seem to be too fruitful in offering up anything of note, so I guess it's up to Wikibirders to explain why this guy deserves an article. Camillus (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed the birding claim isn't very important, but his scientific publications are (e.g. [1], [2]; a google search webb seabird produces a few more) - MPF 01:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep iff this can be sourced, as of right now there are no references. Yamaguchi先生 23:11, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.